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by drumdude
Thu May 09, 2024 8:52 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 41
Views: 908

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

I often think of the LDS church as positioned between Scientology and mainstream Christianity. It’s not as harmful as Scientology or as obviously fraudulent, and its leaders are not as malicious as David Miscavidge. But at the same time the LDS church has a track record of hiding history, hiding fin...
by drumdude
Thu May 09, 2024 1:00 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 41
Views: 908

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

Yeah, a fraud would be when they are trying to peddle something that is not true. I know you are smart enough to understand why your statement is problematic. Your view is it’s not a fraud because it’s a religion? Even if Joseph started it fraudulently, the leaders today believe and that’s sufficie...
by drumdude
Wed May 08, 2024 11:21 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 41
Views: 908

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

It's definitely nothing to write home about. But it's not the rapid decline that most anti/exMormons would wish for. Doesn't look like a decline at all. You can't include the data during COVID lockdowns in an analysis because those were exceptional circumstances. If you are going to include them as...
by drumdude
Wed May 08, 2024 10:54 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 41
Views: 908

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

The last few years of LDS growth rate: They're basically back to before-COVID numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Membership_history_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints This isn't ticking up or down. If you remove the outliers caused by social distancing and closing churches, it's...
by drumdude
Wed May 08, 2024 10:25 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: FAIR: New “Me, My Shelf, and I” pod series
Replies: 7
Views: 254

Re: FAIR: New “Me, My Shelf, and I” pod series

Isn't FAIR just made up of amateurs? I wouldn't expect them to be an authority on, well, anything.
by drumdude
Wed May 08, 2024 10:05 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: RFM on Kamp in Court
Replies: 41
Views: 1110

Re: RFM on Kamp in Court

It’s a shame Jenn Kamp, as Director of Operations, didn’t renew Open Stories Foundation’s liability insurance when it came due in 2022. No she didn't. Honest! She ran outta gas. She had a flat tire. She didn't have enough money for cab fare. Her wedding dress didn't come back from the cleaners. An ...
by drumdude
Wed May 08, 2024 10:01 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 41
Views: 908

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

There are some signs that membership is ticking back up. It may be wishful thinking to believe that people as a whole will continue getting smarter and rejecting ridiculous stories like Mormonism. It’s just as possible that people fall into misinformation more now that internet propaganda is everyw...
by drumdude
Wed May 08, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 41
Views: 908

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

There are some signs that membership is ticking back up. It may be wishful thinking to believe that people as a whole will continue getting smarter and rejecting ridiculous stories like Mormonism. It’s just as possible that people fall into misinformation more now that internet propaganda is everywh...
by drumdude
Wed May 08, 2024 5:53 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.
Replies: 14
Views: 485

Re: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.

The Book of Abraham is objectively a fraud, but the more important subjective faithful Mormon lens allows you to see it as a revelation from God. This works really well to turn any falsehood into a truth. No evidence that COVID vaccines kill people? Well my subjective truth tells me it does. Like I...
by drumdude
Wed May 08, 2024 5:48 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: RFM on Kamp in Court
Replies: 41
Views: 1110

Re: RFM on Kamp in Court

Jenn Kamp’s reposted video:

https://youtu.be/uLJZ2R3MpDE