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by drumdude
Thu May 16, 2024 8:48 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.
Replies: 192
Views: 4380

Re: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.

Within a system their is an element of free will in that frame of reference if you will. But to an observer outside of that system, the free will isn't there because you can see the outside elements that come into play.. This is interesting. Some won’t like this but I plugged your statement into Pi...
by drumdude
Thu May 16, 2024 8:29 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The Many-Transfigurations theory
Replies: 17
Views: 494

Re: The Many-Transfigurations theory

Arguments from incredulity seem to me extremely common, if not indeed almost omnipresent, when a proffered explanation is rejected. And I don't see them as inherently bad or false. They're certainly omnipresent in Daniel's work. "How could Joseph Smith have written the Book of Mormon? It must have ...
by drumdude
Thu May 16, 2024 3:54 am
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Feel a bit crap.
Replies: 12
Views: 285

Re: Feel a bit crap.

Hope you feel better soon, pirate!
by drumdude
Thu May 16, 2024 3:10 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The Many-Transfigurations theory
Replies: 17
Views: 494

Re: The Many-Transfigurations theory

A couple of folks over at the Peterson Obsession Board finally noticed the Meridian article -- Dumb-Dud and the former Kerry Shirts, at least -- and have begun to chant their disagreement with it and their disdain for it. As of yet, they've shown no awareness of the actual argument, let alone any s...
by drumdude
Thu May 16, 2024 2:31 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The Many-Transfigurations theory
Replies: 17
Views: 494

Re: The Many-Transfigurations theory

Is this something taught as a miracle in the CES curriculum? The link no longer works, but is archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20200926001822/https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/manual/church-history-in-the-fulness-of-times/chapter-twenty-three?lang=eng “Chapter Twenty-Three: The Twelve t...
by drumdude
Wed May 15, 2024 11:39 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The Many-Transfigurations theory
Replies: 17
Views: 494

Re: The Many-Transfigurations theory

Apologists are always more secure with quantity than quality. They would rather have 90 pennies than a $100.00 bill, because, well more pennies! They make a nice neat looking pile of copper! Obviously they would be more impressive to the eye than a mere flat piece of single paper. Indeed. And no on...
by drumdude
Wed May 15, 2024 11:10 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The Many-Transfigurations theory
Replies: 17
Views: 494

The Many-Transfigurations theory

In my judgment, the available evidence is persuasive that the story of Brigham’s transfiguration was being told quite early, and it’s difficult to imagine that so many testimonies over so long a period and from such far-flung areas emerged from a conspiracy to deceive or from a mysterious “contagio...
by drumdude
Wed May 15, 2024 6:43 pm
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Trump's Religion vs Obama's Religion
Replies: 34
Views: 799

Re: Trump's Religion vs Obama's Religion

What's the Mormon connection to all of this?
by drumdude
Wed May 15, 2024 6:27 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.
Replies: 192
Views: 4380

Re: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.

I think you might consider using another manner of communicating/delivery for announcing your second return other than this backwoods forum/board. 🙂 Doesn’t this fit the pattern that Joseph Smith started? Who better than an obscure farm boy, where better than an obscure forum? “Thus saith the Lord ...
by drumdude
Wed May 15, 2024 3:28 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.
Replies: 192
Views: 4380

Re: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.

Your free will is impressive! :lol: And if he doesn’t have free will, which I assume you think is the case, then he’s not responsible for having made that statement. Opens a wide vista of possibilities, doesn’t it? Regards, MG I would argue that the moral responsibility you feel to Mormon God makes...