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drumdude wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2024 11:09 pm

I'm glad to have you back, MG. I missed the back and forth.

Thanks!

It’s a delicate dance.

But it is worthwhile I think. I suppose I need to be careful not to say anything to offend. Even if it might be innocuous, low key, or some poor attempts at being facetious.

Regards,
MG

I will assure you, I have free will. It is for that reason that I will avoid calling you a (fill in the blank). 🤭 Instead I will wish you a good day. 🙂 So, you fully chose that dickish reply. Your inability to surprise anyone is what demonstrates your lack of agency, my friend. You, too. Take care....

It’s pretty obvious that, at least in MG’s case, there is no free will. I can’t believe that anyone would freely choose to make such a dickish reply. I will assure you, I have free will. It is for that reason that I will avoid calling you a (fill in the blank). 🤭 Instead I will wish you a good day....

I appreciate the fact that you have a particular world view and that you would consider it to be ‘progress’ to have me accept that your particular version of reality is correct. Regards, MG This is exactly why people judge you as disingenuous. By "progress" I simply meant some progress towards unde...

I would be interested, however, in understanding why drumdude, yourself, and others seem to have a problem with free will. Is there a correlation between having somewhat of an antipathy towards free will and being a non religionist? Do calvinists believe in free will? Just because something appears...

Rivendale wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2024 8:33 pm

doubtingthomas wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2024 8:12 pm

Do calvinists believe in free will?

Just because something appears to possess free will doesn't necessarily mean it actually does. Do you agree?

We are free to to do we want but are not free to choose what we want.

Speak for yourself! (I know you are)

Regards,
MG

I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve read some of that research. But the way I see it, you’re describing the precursors to ‘remembering’, not the underlying nature of free will. Free will is, by in large, a separate matter in some respects. Regards, MG If you think of all the scenarios where...

The movies my pop into my head and I can make a list of them. That’s memory. If I’m asked to name the top five movies from my list as being my favorites, that’s free will. I'm talking about something different, please follow with my example and don't change it. The scenario is not "choose 5 movies ...

Res Ipsa,
Sometime, maybe on a new thread, I would be interested in your thoughts in regards to my inquiries concerning free will.

Regards,
MG

Maybe we’ll make more progress next time. Sharing of ideas and reasons for positions is progress in understanding various ways of approaching the world and realizing that even though we’re in the same room we are going to see things differently. I appreciate the fact that you have a particular worl...