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Well, this has been fun.

Intersting! I'd be curious to know what makes your testimony of the Book of Mormon different than the typical TBM. In my experience, most TBM's have a testimony of the Book of Mormon based on experiences with the Holy Ghost. However, I grew up out east so my experience may not reflect a Utah experi...

Just a few years ago I was pretty much your typical TBM, and I approached anything outside of the correlated curriculum and apologetics with a high level of skepticism. So, though I obviously don't think like that anymore, I still understand where you are coming from. One thing you have missed. I a...

One of the sources is a revelation ! You can read the revelation in full and Brian Hales commentary on it here: m Data inconclusive or unreliable. Answer hasn’t changed. Wasting your time. That's OK. It was actually good process for me to find a bunch more inforation and get to know the most import...

Fence Sitter wrote:Benjamin,

I think you are going to find that Zee only accepts evidence that agrees with his special view of Mormonism, all other evidence is rejected out of hand, even evidence from sources which are known to support the church.

Well, I gave it a go anyways.

Take Quinn out of the picture for a minute here (I came to the same conclusion he did without reading his stuff, so we certainly don't need him.). What I'm saying is that you're unfairly dismissing the whole of the evidence. Ignore all of Whitehead and just deal with Elizabeth Durfee, a member of t...

Simply put, you may disregard whitehead if you think he is suspect and Quinn's interpretation if you don't think he's reliable. However, you still have tons of historical data on those two pages, and without coming up with a way to navigate all of that data and just dismissing it looks like you're ...

It turns out there is a bunch more evidence than I was aware of and Quinn has already done a great job of collecting it all. Yes, Joseph Smith most certainly believed his son David would be a the last days King prophesied in the Bible, and Joseph Smith definitely thought his son was of the lineage ...

Here is an in depth discussion of the first quote in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism published by BYU: m You'll find this first quote in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, a trusted Mormon source compiled by one of the Joseph F. Smiths. The second quote was published in D. Michael Quinn's The Mor...

Here is an in depth discussion of the first quote in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism published by BYU: m You'll find this first quote in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, a trusted Mormon source compiled by one of the Joseph F. Smiths. The second quote was published in D. Michael Quinn's The Morm...