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- Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:48 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: The 2020 Sampson Avard Golden Scepter Award
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4828
Re: The 2020 Sampson Avard Golden Scepter Award
Somebody want to list each year's winner? I don't want to go back and try to create the list, but if someone has it, it'd be fun to see.
- Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:05 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
We may not know why but we can know what to do. There are requirements for a level of human interaction and when the requirements aren't met, that level of intimacy is cut off. Casual friendships end. Professional relationships cease. People get divorced. People go to jail. And in the gray areas be...
- Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:59 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
Erm. . . Something like that? I also take juliann’s feminism seriously. I think she sees herself as primarily concerned about the problem of abuse here. She just has such a hatred of ex-Mos, critics, and unconventional Mormons that, yes, if Rosebud attacks John and Lindsay, well, isn’t Rosebud just...
- Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:28 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
There is no way for us to start at the point of Tom's own beginning and find those decisions, those abuses that made him. We can't because we don't know his starting point. He never understood his own starting point. He had no say in his mind's capacity nor the environment in which he found himself....
- Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:58 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
Oh wait...so, Rosebud=Anne McMullin? Didn't see that coming.
Sounds like she's accusing Lindsay, then, for being party to her being mistreated by Dehlin...And now it makes sense why he was thrown into this.
Sounds like she's accusing Lindsay, then, for being party to her being mistreated by Dehlin...And now it makes sense why he was thrown into this.
- Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:58 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
I've participated on that MD&D thread and find it somewhat interesting. I do think it necessary for a critical perspective to be more thoughtful and observant than to declare something like "the Church its teaching and culture creates pedophiles" although I agree I doubt anyone with sense would say...
- Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:56 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
Hey Kish. You make good points, all very valid. I particularly like how you pointed out Tom's indiscretions were going on long before he left the Church. Its not easy to follow one's life and assign the causes. I happen to maintain many relationships with members. I try to give them their due as muc...
- Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:31 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
I've participated on that MD&D thread and find it somewhat interesting. I do think it necessary for a critical perspective to be more thoughtful and observant than to declare something like "the Church its teaching and culture creates pedophiles" although I agree I doubt anyone with sense would say ...
- Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:27 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
Tom the poster has a very clear preference for topics that discuss Mopologetics and it's various personalities. He seems, or if its Kimball, seemed really knowledgeable about the recent history, dating back the past few decades, of the inner-workings of the whole enterprise. If it's not him it's rea...
- Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:36 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
- Replies: 100
- Views: 24513
Re: Death of Tom Kimball
Some days you're just humming along nicely enjoying all around you and then some story like this smacks you in the face bringing you back to the knowledge of how cruel things are. God and religion seem to make no sense when we know violent and mean psychopaths exist. I don't know if Tom would have f...