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by _jfro18
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:35 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Grindael: RIP, A MDB Treasure
Replies: 78
Views: 13293

Re: Grindael: RIP, A MormonDiscussions.com Treasure

Wow - that's heartbreaking news to see and a shock. I obviously did not know him beyond here, but he was gracious to take a lot of time replying with sources and was an incredibly talented historian and was clearly loved and respected on here. A huge loss and just sad to see.
by _jfro18
Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Have the Mopologists Found a New Protege?
Replies: 37
Views: 5641

Re: Have the Mopologists Found a New Protege?

I mentioned this the other day elsewhere, but what I found hilarious is that she wrote an article slamming progressives in the church, but then she mentioned progressive Mormons at the end of the FAIR podcast and Gee really lit her up over it. And she backpedaled and did her best to laugh it off, bu...
by _jfro18
Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Robert Ritner
Replies: 102
Views: 12932

New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Robert Ritner

I haven't had a chance to listen to it... and since it's a weekend might not until next week since I can't listen around my wife, but I can not wait to give this one a go. https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2020/07/radio-free-mormon-188-dr-robert-k-ritner-on-the-book-of-abraham-part-1/ A saw someon...
by _jfro18
Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:34 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Why the 116 pages story broke my brain and my shelf
Replies: 7
Views: 1365

Re: Why the 116 pages story broke my brain and my shelf

I wrote about this last year in a brief summary and obviously it needs to be expanded, but yeah the 116 pages is just absurd. The idea that God created a second set of plates to cover that EXACT timeframe yet couldn't foresee any of the other problems such as Joseph's polygamy, ban on blacks, Nov 15...
by _jfro18
Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:30 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Newly Released Saints Volume 1 Provides Honest Look....
Replies: 5
Views: 958

Re: Newly Released Saints Volume 1 Provides Honest Look....

After doing the chapter-by-chapter review of Saints, the entire book reads this way. It's never Joseph's fault - it's either the members fault for not being faithful enough that they get punished, or that Joseph was totally doing polygamy in the most godly way he knew, etc. I can't do it again for v...
by _jfro18
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Denying for the Lord
Replies: 5
Views: 925

Re: Denying for the Lord

Is is believable that both J.F. McConkie and C.J. Ostler, academics with their focus on ancient scripture and church history and doctrine, respectively, did not by 2000 also know of the other accounts, If I recall correctly from Isaac Hale, Emma Hale and Oliver Cowdery, about Joseph Smith peering i...
by _jfro18
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Official - LDS Charities spent only $100 million in 2019
Replies: 26
Views: 2998

Re: Official - LDS Charities spent only $100 million in 2019

Since the church refuses to give specifics, we have to work with the little bit that we have, but... From 1985-2009, just 27% of the church's "donations" were cash while the other 73% were "value of material assistance" which includes volunteer hours, etc. So if they "donate...
by _jfro18
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:21 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: 2nd Volume Of Saints - Prophets are blinded by the moment
Replies: 16
Views: 2879

Re: 2nd Volume Of Saints - Prophets are blinded by the momen

What else can they do but put on some rose colored glasses? The ideal of Joseph Smith super prophet of the restoration (who could fly if God commanded) must be maintained. In contrast, the complete history shows a guy making up a religion. It shows Joseph as more of a charlatan, maybe sincere at ti...
by _jfro18
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:03 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: 2nd Volume Of Saints - Prophets are blinded by the moment
Replies: 16
Views: 2879

Re: 2nd Volume Of Saints - Prophets are blinded by the momen

The volume also addresses some of the most controversial episodes in the faith’s history: the origins of the church’s priesthood/temple ban on black members, the horrific slaughter of 120 men, women and children known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre in 1857, and the saints’ role in pressures that ...
by _jfro18
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:05 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Chadwick draws targets round cherry picked fallen arrows.
Replies: 5
Views: 910

Re: Chadwick draws targets round cherry picked fallen arrows

So they're saying that the Book of Mormon, which relies entirely on the Bible, is true because Lehi left at a time where it would make sense for him to leave if you read the Bible a lot?

Is that what I'm getting or is there more evidence that Joseph Smith could not have possibly known?