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I just googled "DCP and Army of Apologists" and found the quote I paraphrased....He and Russell were suspended in short order. Now, that was a very long and incompetent lead up to what I’m trying to introduce; which is something I’m quite excited about, something that some of us have been involved w...

I have to say, one of the most classic times on the different boards I experienced, was at the "World Table," after DCP announced, paraphrasing, he would bring an army of apologists in to decimate the anti's....both he and Russell were given some of the lowest scores and both suspended by the LDS mo...

Drumdude, reading your quote I read that the church did what the fellow asked and his wife states it is for the best. I am not seeing what you are upset about. Did I say somewhere I was upset about this? I found it interesting and noteworthy, hence posting it here. I do think it is something simila...

Personal question, is your name still on the rolls? And if you care to say, and I get it if you don't.... why ? I suppose if it were like having personal information on the Dark Web that could possibly lead to real problems I might consider removing it. But otherwise, insisting that they remove it,...

Russel M. Ballard sent me a personal signed letter saying that he would make sure my name was removed from the records. And that normally they do not do those sorts of things. The back story is my SP wouldn't do it, so I sent a letter to the 12 saying if it was not done I would write a letter to my ...

Sorry Markk, I'll have to let others take this one. One of the great things about not being an active member is that I never have to listen to conference again. I might listen to a snippet here and there to follow a discussion, but I will unlikely ever listen to an entire talk again. Few things in ...

Maybe this is just me....I don't know. For the first time in maybe 40 years I watched and/or listened to all the sessions at GC last weekend as a challenge from a TBM friend. I did not know who this guy was so I searched for his bio and found him speaking outside the church. Apart from his talk and ...

Markk What bugged me more was Brant's almost caviler assertion that they are the experts. They are experts at attempts to make the prophets sound accurate, which is virtually impossible. They have to change the meanings of words to do so, and it obviously flops. Their recontexting a miscontexted qu...

I listened to this podcast today while commuting. Start at 48:00 minutes to about 54:10. 'Prophet's ask the experts (scholars) instead of trying to become experts themselves.' When I got home I had to listen to this part again to make sure I heard him correctly. I am having a little trouble putting...

He says the prophets are "declarers" not "explainers." But that is a modern change in order to add plausible deniability. They were "explainers" plenty of times before the last decade or so. They just realize now that their explanations are easily criticized with the Internet and not just taken at ...