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by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 3:19 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 112
Views: 5541

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Good to see you, MG. I hope all is well with you and yours.
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 3:17 am
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Katie Britt’s Shtick Abides
Replies: 1
Views: 62

Katie Britt’s Shtick Abides

Katie Britt brings her uniquely bad acting skills to the cosplay of genuinely concerned Christian mom calling out Joe Biden for “not standing with Israel” in bringing about the senseless deaths of hundreds of Palestinian children. https://youtu.be/M7rnRJmaWqc?si=llRKK-EdKI-Uv9sd She is so detached f...
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 2:34 am
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
Replies: 10
Views: 394

Re: Libertarian Fools' Paradise

Never heard it worded this way. I can visualise that as making sense. I wouldn't be quick to assume that the east isn't a successful civilisation in its own right. I also wouldn't assume that is is fair (not sure is it should be fare, bit tired), to accuse people who are ignorant or inexperienced a...
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 2:14 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 43
Views: 1026

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

I don't feel I have sufficient information to make that kind of generalization about most ex-mormons. What I was hoping to convey there was the subjective nature of the question. In applying the definition you chose, you turn what I think is a subjective question into an objective one. With a Ponzi...
by Kishkumen
Thu May 09, 2024 8:31 pm
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
Replies: 10
Views: 394

Re: Libertarian Fools' Paradise

Excellent topic and thread! I have pretty much felt this has all been true for a long time but have never seen or heard it stated more clearly or eloquently! Thank you for that! It is so obvious when you state it that way and has only become more obvious since Trump pathologically inflicted himself...
by Kishkumen
Thu May 09, 2024 8:12 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 43
Views: 1026

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

So a proven con-man and deceiver who scammed people out of their money by looking at a rock in a hat claiming he could see buried treasure in the bowels of the earth then uses the same process to dictate a 500 page novel with no gold plates used, yet, it's 'divine'??? If that is what it all is to y...
by Kishkumen
Thu May 09, 2024 8:11 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 43
Views: 1026

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

I think there is a meaning of the word fraud that can be fairly applied to the COJCOLDS: "one that is not what it seems or is represented to be." https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraud Used that way, I don't think it requires that anyone have an intent to deceive. The thread title could b...
by Kishkumen
Thu May 09, 2024 6:06 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 112
Views: 5541

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Physics Guy wrote:
Thu May 09, 2024 9:15 am
It's episodic—a collection of short stories rather than a continuous epic.
The three great epics of Classical antiquity are all very episodic. So are the Gospels and Acts.
by Kishkumen
Thu May 09, 2024 6:02 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 43
Views: 1026

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

You are correct, as far as I know, unless you count peer-pressure, or rather authority-pressure. I personally heard it deployed in a priesthood meeting when someone resisted a service project that the Elder's Quorum president wanted everyone in the meeting to be involved with. One brother barked th...
by Kishkumen
Thu May 09, 2024 6:00 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 43
Views: 1026

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

Your view is it’s not a fraud because it’s a religion? Even if Joseph started it fraudulently, the leaders today believe and that’s sufficient? Not exactly. I don’t see a voluntary association centering on faith as a fraud. Furthermore, I am not in the business of reading Joseph Smith’s mind. Did S...