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I think a good example of the evolutionary nature of this particular miracle story is how the vast majority of the first-hand accounts of the miracle are from years after it occurred. Even people who were keeping journals at the time only noted in their journals years later that they witnessed it. ...

bill4long wrote: ↑

Thu May 16, 2024 2:13 am

Trump must be pretty good at sex. According to her, he made her (a porn actor) pass out during sex.

He probably gassed her.

You would think the Saints would abandon this obvious artifact of trickery and hokum. It doesn't bother me because I think I understand the nature and role of miracle stories. My guess is that most miracle stories evolve according to need and a continuing revisitation of the event. Over time, diffe...

And school teachers were having their kiddos sing praises to the man. I remember. Like it was yesterday. One man's cult leader is another man's trash. P.S. The first cult-of-personality leader in these United States was George Washington. And yet your take on this lacks all sense of perspective and...

I don't get the Mopologist interest. Is this something taught as a miracle in the CES curriculum? What's the doctrinal underpinning? I've never heard of a transfiguration account from the scriptures where one person turns into another. Like Satan turning into an angel of light. As a Chapel Mormon, ...

I guess it is important for LDS people to believe that Brigham Young was Joseph Smith’s successor, despite the fact that he did not see himself as such for some time. I think it is pretty obvious that he was not Smith’s successor. This does not mean he was not the leader of his community. It does no...

drumdude wrote: ↑

Wed May 15, 2024 6:43 pm

What's the Mormon connection to all of this?

Definitely belongs in another forum.

Indeed. I remember when they made a golden statue of Obama, and Democrats were buying Obama bibles, and Obama shoes, and Obama NFTs, and wearing Obama schwag everywhere they went, getting their vehicles custom wrapped with Obama graphics, holding Obama parades, Democrat politicians making their sol...

Pre-destination and an eternal torment are two things I definitely have a problem with.

Dr Moore wrote: ↑

Mon May 13, 2024 7:24 pm

Meh. I’m over him. Angry guy saying angry things to make people feel mad, all to stroke his personal epeen. Not a good ambassador for for the church or for Jesus. But that’s plainly not the objective.

Very well put.