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by Kishkumen
Sun May 12, 2024 5:30 pm
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Why all the screaming about WOKE?
Replies: 5
Views: 226

Re: Why all the screaming about WOKE?

I am tired of all of these gimmicky identity packages concocted in the continuing dance between activists, the media, and politicians. Based, woke, whatever. I say to blazes with the whole damned phenomenon. My idea is not to let loudmouth busybodies force their fads down our throats. I say this to ...
by Kishkumen
Sun May 12, 2024 5:11 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 126
Views: 7263

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

In my experience, Hales is a frustrating interlocutor. I am sure he means well, and he is not a bad guy, but his tactics are pretty slippery. He straw mans his opponents, and his own arguments are recycled. His Joseph couldn’t have done this ergo God arguments are his usual go-to approach. I am not ...
by Kishkumen
Sat May 11, 2024 6:16 pm
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
Replies: 14
Views: 583

Re: Libertarian Fools' Paradise

I need to keep remembering that these people are scholars and intellectuals and not just randoms posting on the internet like me lol. I'm not entirely sure of the difference between civilisation and culture. I assume there may be a difference in that civilization is a group of people and culture is...
by Kishkumen
Sat May 11, 2024 1:46 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Seeing Things Differently -DanP the apologist excuse.
Replies: 49
Views: 1426

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

I came across this quote the other day but I didn’t write the source down. Just cut and pasted it into Google Keep Notes: There are two layers of reality. There is the objective reality of what happens, and there is the subjective reality of how what happened is seen, interpreted, made meaningful. ...
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 5:36 pm
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Katie Britt’s Shtick Abides
Replies: 5
Views: 236

Re: Katie Britt’s Shtick Abides

It sometimes seems to me sometimes that Hamas and the Netanyahu government are competing to see who can be the most brutal and hateful. It's sad how many can't see that opposing the Israeli government's brutal extremes is not equivalent to antisemitism and opposing the slaughter and starvation of i...
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 5:26 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 126
Views: 7263

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

It may be true, sadly, that being open to the possibility that there is something profound in a book may cause one to be more likely to find profundity, but it is certainly not a logical way to think. Suppose you are testing for A versus not-A. Simply acknowledging the possibility of A as a result ...
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Replies: 45
Views: 1238

Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...

Thank you, Reverend, for such a thoughtful response. You have a nuanced approach to religion in general and Mormonism (big tent) in particular that I respect. Thank you for your thoughtful reply, RI. You are one of my favorite interlocutors on the board. You always bring challenging arguments and w...
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 1:36 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 126
Views: 7263

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

To clarify my previous posts, pointing out ways in which the Book of Mormon is simpler than a long novel was not meant just to dump on the Book of Mormon as a bad book. As Kishkumen points out, there are landmarks in world literature that have similar simple structures. When I later returned to the...
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 1:26 pm
Forum: Spirit Paradise
Topic: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
Replies: 14
Views: 583

Re: Libertarian Fools' Paradise

Thank you for your reply. I may have may have not expressed myself well. I do not believe that the east has gifted the west civilisation. There have been many civilisations. Technology brings with it a different viewpoint of civilisation. I meant that the east and various parts of the world have th...
by Kishkumen
Fri May 10, 2024 3:19 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 126
Views: 7263

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Good to see you, MG. I hope all is well with you and yours.