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Disagreeing with me is expected. Some of the world's best apologists do that regularly. Hey, me too!!! I thought he leapt from the window, screaming the Masonic help call, expecting his fellow Masons to come to his aid. Falling from the window and leaping from the window is two different actions. T...

Well YEAH Mr. PLUTARCH Are you DEL MARCH from FAIR??? No, Plutarch is the former "Bishop Lee," "Lee," "Enter the Dragon," and "Null Hypothesis" (among other names) on the old Mormondiscussions bb; he is "rcrocket" at FAIR. A very smart lawyer, albei...

Joseph was outside of the jail, having flung himself out the window. You can call it what you want, but I'm sure a case can be made that he was shot while trying to escape. Which is why I have a hard time with anyone who says he died a martyr. Martyrs aren't shot while trying to escape. I have to d...

FARMS indeed goes through peer reviewing, but it doesn't hold itself out as a scientific or historial journal. Nor does the Evangelical Review or the Catholic publications which often provide articles on science and history. But, their peer review is just as rigorous, I am sure, as the professional...

And incidently, Joseph was shot while trying to escape, not lynched. Huh? Joseph didn't "try to escape" until a mob invaded the jail and shot at him and killed his brother. And, technically, Joseph was "lynched" (usually refers to a hanging, but can be applied to any form of mob...

Plutarch wrote:I am Null H.

Welcome, Bob -- long time, no hear.

The deal here is that the Church really wants it to go away. They want to distant themselves from it. The best way is to admit it was bad deal, an error, and all that. But they won't because that taints the past prophets. They also can't, in my opinion, so long as D&C 132 remains in the current...

Only Joseph Smith was named in the arrest warrant .... Hyrum and others were also named in the original writ for riot. Both Joseph and Hyrum were named in the later writ for treason. ... yet these men fired into the building knowing that it was filled with innocent men. Those in the jail not under ...