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by Wonhyo
Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:05 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Mopologists Make Their Predictions for 2023
Replies: 12
Views: 1186

Re: Mopologists Make Their Predictions for 2023

Looking at photos of the Mopologists isn't the best way to judge their personalities. But being generally familiar with their writings, defensiveness, aggressiveness, pet topics, etc., I can say that Scott Lloyd, Blake Ostler, and Louis Midgely are three people I would have zero interest in having l...
by Wonhyo
Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:56 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Don't Pray, Just Obey!
Replies: 23
Views: 1871

Re: Don't Pray, Just Obey!

There's another thread on the board about Jeffrey Holland ripping on the missionaries in Britain and telling them that if the mission were a horse, he'd shoot it. Holland's remarks - elitist, out-of-touch with reality, even abusive - are indicative of a larger malaise that's infected leadership for ...
by Wonhyo
Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:50 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "If This Mission Were A Horse, I'd Shoot It." -- Jeffrey R. Holland
Replies: 26
Views: 2671

Re: "If This Mission Were A Horse, I'd Shoot It." -- Jeffrey R. Holland

One additional thought, Holland sure seems angry these days, frustrated and at a loss on how to handle disaffected members and how to correct the church's problems. Holland is a TBM who grew into adulthood venerating leaders, like he is today. That someone would question the church, question leaders...
by Wonhyo
Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:39 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "If This Mission Were A Horse, I'd Shoot It." -- Jeffrey R. Holland
Replies: 26
Views: 2671

Re: "If This Mission Were A Horse, I'd Shoot It." -- Jeffrey R. Holland

The church has felt comfortable in its a**holery towards members, and especially missionaries, for the past however many decades because members and missionaries have consistently viewed and treated leaders like Holland as God's literal mouthpieces on earth. The sense of power, of influence, of bein...
by Wonhyo
Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:09 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "If This Mission Were A Horse, I'd Shoot It." -- Jeffrey R. Holland
Replies: 26
Views: 2671

Re: "If This Mission Were A Horse, I'd Shoot It." -- Jeffrey R. Holland

Good grief, Jeff...

Paying for the privilege of being a full-time missionary, subject to the ecclesiastical abuses that it all entails, becomes less and less attractive every time Holland visits a mission and opens his mouth.
by Wonhyo
Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:25 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Book of Abraham--false, but Book of Mormon--"true"
Replies: 13
Views: 1019

Re: Book of Abraham--false, but Book of Mormon--"true"

Sock puppet, I know that your question wasn't for me to answer. But I'll take a stab at it and say that a TBM who accepts the Book of Mormon as authentically divine but not the Book of Abraham is a member in transition. Give them some time and they'll descend farther into the gray shades of nuance, ...
by Wonhyo
Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:17 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Gee's thoughts on how others think of his work
Replies: 63
Views: 4202

Re: Gee's thoughts on how others think of his work

https://www.fromthedesk.org/10-questions-john-gee/ "Misinformation and misconceptions about the Book of Abraham can trouble to Latter-day Saints, but usually, the part that people find troubling is assuming that the misinformation is true." I doubt Gee has succeeded in proving the "misinformation" ...
by Wonhyo
Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:09 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: 9 Years of Anger and Resentment: "Interpreter" Rings in the New Year
Replies: 39
Views: 3500

Re: 9 Years of Anger and Resentment: "Interpreter" Rings in the New Year

DCP isn't often able to congratulate himself or Mopologetics without also bagging on someone or something else in the process.
by Wonhyo
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:59 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Independent LDS researcher puts active membership at 6 million
Replies: 16
Views: 1338

Re: Independent LDS researcher puts active membership at 6 million

Once they acknowledge the declining membership it will be framed as a sure sign of the end times. Only the truly valiant in the pre-existence signed up to be present in this final climactic orgasm of religious persecution and godlessness. Yes, and that's happening even now. How many times have we h...
by Wonhyo
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:55 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Independent LDS researcher puts active membership at 6 million
Replies: 16
Views: 1338

Re: Independent LDS researcher puts active membership at 6 million

I think it's fair to say that the specifics of both the JW and the LDS are not particularly relevant. The fact that JWs get their growth through member proselytizing is huge though. LDS missionaries come and go, and often the converts they bring in leave when they do. The pressure upon Mormons to b...