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- Thu May 09, 2024 6:00 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1365
Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Your view is it’s not a fraud because it’s a religion? Even if Joseph started it fraudulently, the leaders today believe and that’s sufficient? Not exactly. I don’t see a voluntary association centering on faith as a fraud. Furthermore, I am not in the business of reading Joseph Smith’s mind. Did S...
- Thu May 09, 2024 5:51 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1365
Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
It's difficult to say cause circumstances would be so wildly different, but I often think that if I lived in Utah still that I very well could have ended up as a country club Mormon. I like to think I would have stopped attending completely, but I could also see doing enough to also have a temple r...
- Thu May 09, 2024 5:46 pm
- Forum: Spirit Paradise
- Topic: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
- Replies: 14
- Views: 628
Re: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
That's a serious conundrum, and it's certainly relevant. Every now and again some hair-brain tax legislature will get proposed by dems, and I'll have a moment where I think, "don't make not care if Trump wins" and I'm not wealthy. The tendency not to take account of the range of views in the electo...
- Thu May 09, 2024 9:47 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1365
- Thu May 09, 2024 9:42 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1365
Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
Well, not quite. There's that whole "Law of Consecration" thing, "which means dedicating our time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed us to building up Jesus Christ’s Church on the earth." (Taken right from the church's website, so I assume this is not against the board rules t...
- Wed May 08, 2024 9:31 pm
- Forum: Spirit Paradise
- Topic: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
- Replies: 14
- Views: 628
Re: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
All wonderful insights, Dean Robbers. I was struck by an argument about fascist Germany that I recently encountered on one of the cable “news” shows. The Nazis were able to stitch together enough support from different quarters to take power. It was by appealing to the desires of normally incompatib...
- Wed May 08, 2024 7:22 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1365
Re: So we know the 'church' is a fraud, where does that leave...
The LDS Church is not a fraud. It is an exorbitantly expensive social club with an expensive entrance fee: 10% of your income for life. Fortunately, they use an honor system to monitor follow through on that commitment.
- Wed May 08, 2024 7:20 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: RFM on Kamp in Court
- Replies: 41
- Views: 1344
- Wed May 08, 2024 4:58 pm
- Forum: Spirit Paradise
- Topic: Libertarian Fools' Paradise
- Replies: 14
- Views: 628
Libertarian Fools' Paradise
I am not a big fan of libertarianism because, in my view, it ignores inescapable realities about the human species and civilization. Homo sapiens dominates primarily because of its superior ability to act in concert as large coalitions. To effectively do so over long periods of time is the job of ci...
- Wed May 08, 2024 4:53 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: RFM on Kamp in Court
- Replies: 41
- Views: 1344
Re: RFM on Kamp in Court
I haven’t talked about these issues anywhere to my recollection. Jenn Kamp filed a lawsuit against John Dehlin in Federal court alleging harassment, but she filed it in the wrong court system. I think that was around January of 2023. Jenn then did a podcast about her lawsuit, the allegations in it,...