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by _Simon Southerton
Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:46 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Bednar (and Church) is helping spread COVID
Replies: 24
Views: 3082

Re: Bednar (and Church) is helping spread COVID

This will go down worse than the pickle talk. At least people didn’t die from following his lead on that one. Utah is in for a bad go. Most of the problem stems from the Trump lead, unfortunately Bednar joined. I agree this piece will not age well. It's use by date may be in the next few weeks if U...
by _Simon Southerton
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:47 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Bednar (and Church) is helping spread COVID
Replies: 24
Views: 3082

Re: Bednar (and Church) is helping spread COVID

I have thought long about what motivated Bednar. I don't think it's religious freedom at all. Consider how humiliating it has been for the leaders of the church to be told by health experts you can't hold church gatherings. For years and years the church has run Utah. They call all the shots. Then a...
by _Simon Southerton
Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Bednar (and Church) is helping spread COVID
Replies: 24
Views: 3082

Bednar (and Church) is helping spread COVID

I have many LDS and former LDS family members and friends, many of whom live in Utah. For many weeks I was openly praising the actions of the LDS Church. While they took too long to close temples, where many of the oldest members regularly attend, they were ahead of the curve with their unilateral d...
by _Simon Southerton
Sat May 23, 2020 2:11 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)
Replies: 158
Views: 13449

Re: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)

The hat below is probably more representative of the type of hat he had. It was described as an old hat so it was probably a bit worn. One writer described it as "battered". The frame for these hats was made by casting cheesecloth soaked in shellac (transparent resin) on a hat shaped wooden block. T...
by _Simon Southerton
Fri May 22, 2020 6:58 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)
Replies: 158
Views: 13449

Re: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)

I am puzzled by the sense that some of this discussion is being undertaken with the view that indoors in the 1820 there was lots of light to penetrate a hat for reading the interior. I will point out that there were no 100 watt bulbs or 40 watt bulbs. There was either a window or an oil type lamp o...
by _Simon Southerton
Fri May 22, 2020 3:55 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)
Replies: 158
Views: 13449

Re: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)

Hi Dan, Thanks for your responses. I don't understand this comment at all. The stone and the hat were both essential elements of the trick. Everyone back then believed the stone was the magical element. It was the diversion, an essential part of the trick. The hat was essential, because it convince...
by _Simon Southerton
Tue May 19, 2020 11:47 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)
Replies: 158
Views: 13449

Re: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)

I understand RFM’s logic about the hat being unnecessary because it is an unnecessary element in the trick. If a magician could really cut a person in half, he/she wouldn’t need a box. I don't understand this comment at all. The stone and the hat were both essential elements of the trick. Everyone ...
by _Simon Southerton
Mon May 11, 2020 12:08 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)
Replies: 158
Views: 13449

Re: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon

Brodie's book is essential reading even now. For those just diving into the field of Mormon history it should be the first thing they read. It remains the gold standard of biographies on Joseph Smith and is the base on which people like Bushman, Vogel, Hill, Quinn and many other built their own wor...
by _Simon Southerton
Sun May 10, 2020 4:47 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)
Replies: 158
Views: 13449

Re: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon

Starting today I am reading No Man Knows My History again. I want to see if anything pops out again. The other reason is that I haven't studied church history closely. So my claim that I believed Joseph Smith acted alone was based on gut instinct, not knowledge. So it's an opinion that deserves to ...
by _Simon Southerton
Fri May 08, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon (We Need Dan Vogel's Help!)
Replies: 158
Views: 13449

Re: Radio Free Mormon: Magic and the Book of Mormon

Starting today I am reading No Man Knows My History again. I want to see if anything pops out again. The other reason is that I haven't studied church history closely. So my claim that I believed Joseph Smith acted alone was based on gut instinct, not knowledge. So it's an opinion that deserves to b...