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by _Corpsegrinder
Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:12 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The disaffected Mormon problem
Replies: 70
Views: 3138

Re: The disaffected Mormon problem

Fair enough. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
by _Corpsegrinder
Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:24 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The disaffected Mormon problem
Replies: 70
Views: 3138

Re: The disaffected Mormon problem

Hi AS. Do you have actual stats about the "average ex-mo" not investing little time in investigating outside beliefs? I ask because that is very far removed from my personal experience and I didn't really think I was an exception. This doesn't describe my experiences, either. I've certain...
by _Corpsegrinder
Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:16 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The disaffected Mormon problem
Replies: 70
Views: 3138

Re: The disaffected Mormon problem

I also reject the standard defense you posted above that once you realize the LDS church is mythology that you quickly realize that all other religious beliefs are mythology. As I noted before, the problem here is that the more skeptically minded LDS are the ones to figure out the church is not tru...
by _Corpsegrinder
Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:40 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: First Vision Who talked to Joseph Smith God or someone else ?
Replies: 7
Views: 773

Re: First Vision Who talked to Joseph Smith God or someone

It is quite true. Right and wrong and logic do not apply when it comes to peoples belief structures. Even though the foundation of who they are is wraped up in it. People have to much invested in what they think is right. If they were to acknowledge that the spirit did not tell them what is what th...
by _Corpsegrinder
Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:35 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: How is it 'faith' floats god's boat?
Replies: 10
Views: 642

Re: How is it 'faith' floats god's boat?

I don't get why god would prefer those who guess, with peer pressure of how to interpret nonspecific 'feelings', rather than first gather information and make an informed decision. Mainstream Christians don't realize it, but they're really worshiping Loki, the Norse god of mischief. http://www.comi...
by _Corpsegrinder
Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:25 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: First Vision Who talked to Joseph Smith God or someone else ?
Replies: 7
Views: 773

Re: First Vision Who talked to Joseph Smith God or someone

JudgemeGod wrote:I think Mark Hoffman was a piker compaired to Joseph Smith.
Joseph Smith had a far more Experienced teacher.

Would you be willing to say the same thing about the Prophet Mohammad?
by _Corpsegrinder
Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:19 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The disaffected Mormon problem
Replies: 70
Views: 3138

Re: The disaffected Mormon problem

No mention of existence of God, faith in Jesus, the problem of evil, critical issues surrounding the Bible, etc. All of these issues speak directly to theism and to the overwhelmingly predominant Western forms of theism. Yet, most ex-Mos throw theism out without even thinking about these things for...
by _Corpsegrinder
Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:01 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: First Vision Who talked to Joseph Smith God or someone else ?
Replies: 7
Views: 773

Re: First Vision Who talked to Joseph Smith God or someone

Yes, from the perspective of Mainstream Christianity, Joseph Smith was either a fraud or a dupe of Satan. But from an Islamic perspective, the belief that Jesus Christ is a universal savior is viewed as heresy. To Islamists, Jesus was only a prophet, somewhat like Mohammad. And from the perspective ...
by _Corpsegrinder
Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:44 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Hat trick?
Replies: 18
Views: 1234

Re: Hat trick?

And why did the dumb things have to be made out of gold? Brass worked just fine for the Kinderhook Plates...oh wait, those were phony, right? Cuz god hadn't invented platinum by then. I predict the next set of ancient scriptures to be dug up will be made of an alloy of unobtainium and anti-matter.
by _Corpsegrinder
Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:10 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "The single most persuasive secular argument"
Replies: 119
Views: 4631

Re: "The single most persuasive secular argument"

Gadianton wrote:Of course, critics have demolished large sections of the "restoration" here and there. A coherent, full explanation? Well, we don't even have that with much better document historical matters.
And you can only beat a dead tapir for so long before it’s not fun anymore.