Counting Our Blessings.

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Marcus wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:41 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:56 pm
...There's not a 4 year old child in the US (or possibly a 3 year old) who doesn't know what this sign "says".

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I'm more than happy to admit I don't have the abilities of a four or even a three year old in the US because I have no idea what this sign would universally mean to children. Can you give a hint?
Try this one. What does the sign say?

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Marcus I inadvertently posted the older sign in my haste to get an example up on that first one. Here's the current sign.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:43 am
Marcus I inadvertently posted the older sign in my haste to get an example up on that first one. Here's the current sign.

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Ok, thanks. My kids are grown. Could you please just explain what you think the red sign, current or otherwise, universally means to 3 and 4 year olds in the US?
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Marcus wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:47 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:43 am
Marcus I inadvertently posted the older sign in my haste to get an example up on that first one. Here's the current sign.

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Ok, thanks. My kids are grown. Could you please just explain what you think the red sign, current or otherwise, universally means to 3 and 4 year olds in the US?
Sure! But recall I didn't discuss what the red sign means. It's what the sign says. It says this:

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What it means might differ for each child based on their experience.

A quick example of meaning defined by early experiences. What does "bank" mean? To the young child it might mean lollipops or treats for the dog at the drive through. ;-)

Adults read environmental print as well. Think about the international road signs we see or those for restrooms around the world. There are symbols on those for us to read regardless of our ability to speak other languages. Gives us the ability to navigate, if you will, whether we know the language or not.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:03 am
Marcus wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:47 am

Ok, thanks. My kids are grown. Could you please just explain what you think the red sign, current or otherwise, universally means to 3 and 4 year olds in the US?
Sure! But recall I didn't discuss what the red sign means. It's what the sign says.
Oh dear god. Okay, what does the sign universally SAY to 3 and 4 year olds in the US?
Jersey Girl wrote:It says this:

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There I will have to disagree with you that the sign universally "SAYS" target to 3 and 4 year olds.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:24 am

Try this one. What does the sign say?

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Owing to our habit of never eating there, and not being exposed to much of any advertising about it, at 4 years of age our oldest still thought that any of those ’Big Gold M’s that we would drive by stood for ‘Mom’.
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Learning happens in jumps, and sometimes there's something wrong with a jump and it comes partly undone. All the two-steps-forward-one-step-back can be frustrating but it's how things are. Even now, I find I usually finally understand something at last—about three times.
I was a teenager before it was cool.
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At one point McDonald's offered McPizza, at least in some places. They used signs with two of their golden-arch M's tilted sideways to be the zz in "pizza". They looked enough like handwritten lowercase z's that your eyes read "pizza" just before they noticed the arches, so your brain got "Pizza—at McDonald's" in about a millisecond, from a single word. It was pretty clever.
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Physics Guy wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:31 am
At one point McDonald's offered McPizza, at least in some places. They used signs with two of their golden-arch M's tilted sideways to be the zz in "pizza". They looked enough like handwritten lowercase z's that your eyes read "pizza" just before they noticed the arches, so your brain got "Pizza—at McDonald's" in about a millisecond, from a single word. It was pretty clever.
Huh. I don't remember this, but apparently it was available from the mid-1980s and through the 1990s.

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Bret Ripley wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:06 pm
Physics Guy wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:31 am
At one point McDonald's offered McPizza, at least in some places. They used signs with two of their golden-arch M's tilted sideways to be the zz in "pizza". They looked enough like handwritten lowercase z's that your eyes read "pizza" just before they noticed the arches, so your brain got "Pizza—at McDonald's" in about a millisecond, from a single word. It was pretty clever.
Huh. I don't remember this, but apparently it was available from the mid-1980s and through the 1990s.

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Wow. I don't remember it either. Especially their "new revolutionary oven" that apparently can "have it to you in under 5 minutes."
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