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_truth dancer
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Post by _truth dancer »

TD, the study of myth, while it may be something that attracts smart, even brilliant, people, is not the stuff of science. There are no testable hypotheses, everything is assumptions and interpretation. It doesn't matter how many people nod in agreement, it is very tenuous at best.

Of course, there are common experiences. And maybe some of the assumptions may even be accurate. Such as the Sleeping Beauty story as one of these common experience stories. When she pokes her finger on the spinning wheel, and a drop of blood appears, that is really the metaphor for the begining of menstruation. When she goes to sleep that demonstrates that a female does not "awaken" sexually for several years after the appearance of the menses.

But this wandering down the rabbit trail of mythology isn't even what we are talking about. I said that gosple truths were taught. So tell me how baptism is some kind of common human experience that worked its way into the earliest religious stories by accident?


Again, can you provide the name of a scientist of any kind, a modern day expert in history, linguists, anthropology, who agrees with your assertion.

If you don't like mythologists fine, give me some reputable, modern day scientist who agrees with you.

I know of none.

You seem to be asserting a theory as fact yet have no evidence whatsoever to support it, no experts who agree with you.

In terms of mythology, I feel quite certain virtually all mythologists will agree with me, (at least of the dozens of books I have read on the topic, and the numerous lectures I have heard, there is consistency), and since you discount them all, and are unwilling to familiarize yourself with their work, I think any discussion on specific myths is pointless.

The point really boils down to this... you have your own theory that evidently works for you but doesn't seem consistent with the real world in any recognizable way.

It's fine.

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Post by _charity »

Last time, and then I am done. I have surveyed, in the scholarly sense, mythology. It isn't what we are talking about. So statements and assertions by mythologists don't matter. BECAUSE THAT ISN'T WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

And since you can't engage the topic, you keep bringing mythology into it. You have your brick wall up to protect the vulnerability. I don't feel like batting my head against it.

Have a nice day.
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Post by _truth dancer »

charity wrote:Last time, and then I am done. I have surveyed, in the scholarly sense, mythology. It isn't what we are talking about. So statements and assertions by mythologists don't matter. BECAUSE THAT ISN'T WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

And since you can't engage the topic, you keep bringing mythology into it. You have your brick wall up to protect the vulnerability. I don't feel like batting my head against it.

Have a nice day.


Wow.. I guess you missed this from my previous post?

Again, can you provide the name of a scientist of any kind, a modern day expert in history, linguists, anthropology, who agrees with your assertion.
If you don't like mythologists fine, give me some reputable, modern day scientist who agrees with you.


I have repeatedly asked you to let go of the mythology strawman since you do not believe them nor are you familiar with the topic.

Of course the topic is not mythology, which is why I have asked about five times for you to give me ANY expert, In other words, someone OTHER THAN A MYTHOLOGIST.

The TOPIC is... YOUR unique heliocentric diffusionist theory and YOUR claims that this is truth.

It is not I who is unwilling to engage in the topic. Until you can come up with even one scientist or expert who agrees with you, there really isn't really any way there can be a discussion.

YOU made an assertion and have not backed it up with ANY sort of facts, science, experts, quotes, books, or ANYTHING AT ALL.

So, how can there be any discussion whatsoever? Making unsupported claims, stating these ideas as fact, and not providing any sort of evidence at all, does not exactly make for normal dialogue.

Again, I understand that you theory works for you and this is fine.

It is just not appropriate to suggest that folks can't engage in the topic, when it is you who is unwilling to provide evidence, support, or research to support your assertions.

Oh well....


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