How will the Mormon Church adapt to mandatory gay sealings

[_Lamanite]

The church's biggest fear is that if the definition of marriage is widened to include gays, which of course they curse as an abomination against God,

We (Mormon's) didn't curse it as an abomination, God did. And then He told me to let Him judge people and for me to simply love them regardless.


Big UP!

Lamanite

[_ajax18]

And then He told me to let Him judge people and for me to simply love them regardless.

How does God love and not judge them? By inspiring men to call them into interviews, obtaining information, and then "study out in their mind" whether God has judged them to be cast out or not? But then bishops reserve the right to be wrong and not always in tune with what God is telling them, Who or what is God helping in allowing a situation like that? Why does He permit this? I've seen men excommunitcated based on lies, and when the truth came out, and the lousy apology sounded like this, "Sorry we didn't believe you but we had to really get to the bottom of this, so when he told me you did that I prayed about it felt that God had sad that we had to excommunicate you. Hail ye judges of Israel sitting protected behind their office doors. God has granted you the authority to judge, but unfortuately he didn't he doesn't tell you everything so your judgments will be based on incomplete information at best. What a great program!

It sounds like a regime to me. Normal people decide they have a way to live better than other normal people. They're not much smarter, stronger, none of that. But if you're a leader, and you can manipulate those people into serving you, you could live very well and powerfully, without learning a damn thing. Predatory behvaior is good business.

Everyone knows my crazy dreams and hopes of perfect hereafter. What disgusts me is that it seems as far as earth life is concerned, this talk of love and not judging people seems to just be philosophical lip service. You better believe there is selective love and judgment in practice, nor do those who do it even see it as a sin because they've found perjoratives and euphesisms to cut off signally pathway to their conscious. I amazed how well Mormons seem to latch on the Old Testament when they want to punish someone like me, but quickly they turn to the New Testament when I want revenge for what someone has done to me.

It's a perfect setup to systematically create two classes of people. We've got an old testament use on people we don't like and a New Testament for people we do like.

[_hobart]

I really don't think most people are concerned over the church having to perform gay sealings. That idea is just ridiculous. The real problem is that (if I understand this correctly), the church temple sealers have (in the United States) the legal power to civilly marry people. This causes a conflict of interest: who are they working for? the church or the state? Obviously, discriminating against marrying or marrying non-Mormons or gays (where it is legal like in Boston where there's a temple) is unethical--seeing as they are civil servants. The church will most likely require couples to get married legally by a judge or state representative in the eyes of the law before being sealed in the religious ceremony. This is the procedure in most European countries, and I believe it is the correct one if we are to live in a society where church and state is separate.

And on adoption, I agree with JohnStewartMill. Mormons won't be forced to place children in gay homes. They just will have to dig into their own pockets to fund the adoption procedure instead of being helped by the government to pay for their religiously-oriented practices. Again, this is proper separation of church and state.

[_harmony]

The church will most likely require couples to get married legally by a judge or state representative in the eyes of the law before being sealed in the religious ceremony.

And isn't it amazing... all the family members can be at the wedding. Wow. What a revelation that will be!

[_ludwigm]

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The church will most likely require couples to get married legally by a judge or state representative in the eyes of the law before being sealed in the religious ceremony. This is the procedure in most European countries, and I believe it is the correct one if we are to live in a society where church and state is separate.
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Interestingly, our constitution (Hungary) says nothing about separated church and state. The state simply doesn't care religious ceremonies, marriage or whatever. People may/can marry in seven different religion, before or after the civil marriage. That ones don't count, only the civil version.
If churches want or don't want to "seal" gays, it is their private social problem.

Yes, there are lobbying for and against gay marriage.