The Importance of Claiming an "Unpaid Clergy"

[_Daniel Peterson]

As a bishop, I gave temple recommends to a number of people who had paid no tithing.

[_Simon Belmont]

As a bishop, I gave temple recommends to a number of people who had paid no tithing.

Because they didn't have an income?

[_Pahoran]

You mean like payment up front for a Temple Recommend?

Speaking of fictions....

You do like to play dumb. We both know he is refering to tithing which every member is required to pay before being able to obtain a temple reccomend.

That is not the case.

Well, technically you did [have to pay to get a recommend.] Sure you could have lied about paying tithing, but it is a requirment in order to get a recommend. Try telling them you don't pay thithing next time and see what happens.

No, it is not a requirement to pay tithing. It is a requirement to be a full tithe payer. As just one example, mothers who stay at home -- something the Church continues to encourage, despite the negative impact upon its revenues, which may surprise some, given the assumptions so heavily relied upon around here -- are full tithe payers without paying a cent.

As I said you have to state that you are a full tithe payer in order to get a recommend and recieve the ministry of the temple. Now this is your definition, not mine. :) to funny.

I'm not sure that anyone's posts on this thread are more risible than your own.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Daniel Peterson]

As a bishop, I gave temple recommends to a number of people who had paid no tithing.

Because they didn't have an income?

Yup.

Thereby proving that there is no entrance fee for the temple.

[_Themis]

[No, it is not a requirement to pay tithing. It is a requirement to be a full tithe payer. As just one example, mothers who stay at home -- something the Church continues to encourage, despite the negative impact upon its revenues, which may surprise some, given the assumptions so heavily relied upon around here -- are full tithe payers without paying a cent.

This is what I was saying. If you make money you are required to say you paid a full tithing to get a recommend. I personally don't think it is a big deal.

I'm not sure that anyone's posts on this thread are more risible than your own.

I am not the one who came up with Bcspaces definition, only showing how it has to be applied. Your own posts would be more risable then anyones here if they were not so filled with hate.

[_Themis]

As a bishop, I gave temple recommends to a number of people who had paid no tithing.

I am not saying those who make no income cannot get a recommend, nor do I think it is a big deal. I am just stating the facts as I understand them.

[_Pahoran]

This is what I was saying. If you make money you are required to say you paid a full tithing to get a recommend. I personally don't think it is a big deal.

And if you don't, you're not.

Furthermore, one can be a full tithe-payer and still be denied a Temple Recommend based upon other criteria unrelated to monetary contributions.

Not only that, but a full tithepayer who pays $300 a year -- and who qualifies on the other criteria -- will receive a Temple Recommend for exactly the same duration, giving him access to exactly the same ordinances and in all the same Temples -- as a full tithepayer who pays $3,000,000 a year.

Ergo, claiming that tithing constitutes "payment up front for a Temple Recommend" is demonstrably false, and appears to be the most vacuous nonsense at best.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Themis]

And if you don't, you're not.

Furthermore, one can be a full tithe-payer and still be denied a Temple Recommend based upon other criteria unrelated to monetary contributions.

Not only that, but a full tithepayer who pays $300 a year -- and who qualifies on the other criteria -- will receive a Temple Recommend for exactly the same duration, giving him access to exactly the same ordinances and in all the same Temples -- as a full tithepayer who pays $3,000,000 a year.

I never said it wasn't. Like I said it's not a big deal.

Ergo, claiming that tithing constitutes "payment up front for a Temple Recommend" is demonstrably false, and appears to be the most vacuous nonsense at best.

Well technically you do have to pay a full tithe before one can quilify for a recommend. It really shouldn't be that hard to understand. Tithe is 10%, so how much you make does not matter even if it is 0. Other religions will do similar although some may not not sure, and again I will repeat, I don't think it is a big deal.