better not to Marry

[_dogmatic]

critical scholars have reached a near consensus that seven are Paul's: 1 Thessalonians, Galatians, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Philippians, Philemon and Romans.
Agreement that he did not write:
1 & 2 Timothy and Titus is about 90%
Ephesians is about 80%
Colossians is about 60%
2 Thessalonians is a slight majority.

from- Fr. Raymond E. Brown. He's considered a premier scripture scholar by many. But even if not to your taste. You can't just say Corinthians was not written by paul when so many disagree with you.

[_dogmatic]

the questionable verses your talking about are in another chapter

[_Buffalo]

critical scholars have reached a near consensus that seven are Paul's: 1 Thessalonians, Galatians, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Philippians, Philemon and Romans.
Agreement that he did not write:
1 & 2 Timothy and Titus is about 90%
Ephesians is about 80%
Colossians is about 60%
2 Thessalonians is a slight majority.

from- Fr. Raymond E. Brown. He's considered a premier scripture scholar by many. But even if not to your taste. You can't just say Corinthians was not written by paul when so many disagree with you.

My mistake - thanks dogmatic.

[_GlennThigpen]

A person can prove just about anything taking the Bible in bits and pieces and not trying to understand the context, who Paul was talking to or about, or what questions he was attempting to answer. Remember that Paul himself was on a mission.

As to the supposed call not to marry, here is something that Paul said in another place.

"1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."

And again, in yet another place Paul says

"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled:" (Hebrews 13:4)

And once again, Paul says a little more in 1 Corinthians 11:11,

"Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord."

If Paul had indeed been inveighing against marriage, he would have been in conflict with the words of Genesis where

"the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." (Genesis 2:18)

Unless one would interpret "help meet" as God making Eve to be a slave to Adam and not a wife.

Verse 24 ads a bit to the meat here,

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

Now, let's look at the the verses that lead up to that opinion from Paul.

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

In verse one, Paul is alluding to some questions that had evidently been posed to him. We do not know what the questions were. We only know the answers and are in Double Jeopardy.

In verse 6, Paul is expressly saying that he is not speaking by way of commandment. I do not exactly know what he means by permission, or whose permission he is speaking.

I think that all in all, we need to apply this selection of verses pretty narrowly, and that is to those who wrote the questions and knew what the questions were.

Glenn

[_dogmatic]

by permission, and not of commandment.[/color][/b]

In verse one, Paul is alluding to some questions that had evidently been posed to him. We do not know what the questions were. We only know the answers and are in Double Jeopardy.

In verse 6, Paul is expressly saying that he is not speaking by way of commandment. I do not exactly know what he means by permis
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I think this is a moot point. We all agree it was pauls opinion that a Christian can be more edffective if single. You waisted a bunch if words saying what everyone here believes.

I know Mormons like to poo pop Paul though no one has yet told
Me which books I can trust of his and which books I can't. It seems to be on a verse by verse basses that verses which agree or disagree with mormonisim. That the whole of scholar work seems to trust most of his letters has no apparent effect on the Mormon. The original thread was more about weather marriage is allowed in heaven. Which the scripture seems to teach in the negative. Paul is just a escape for any woman that wants to live outside the bullied Mormon attempt to Mary every one in it's parish. Dear woman. You are
Loosed. there will be no marriage in Heavan. So you can do what u please here and marry Christ instead. A perfect husband b

[_GlennThigpen]

Loosed. there will be no marriage in Heavan. So you can do what u please here and marry Christ instead. A perfect husband b

if there are no marriages in heaven, how can anyone marry Christ?

Glenn