Fence Sitter wrote:Is your question limited to the use of a stone for religious purposes (seer stone) or are you looking for the earliest use of a stone (peep) by Joseph Smith to find lost or hidden items?
earliest use period.
Urim & Thummim NOT used to translate Book of Mormon...
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earliest use period.
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stemelbow wrote:Fence Sitter wrote:Is your question limited to the use of a stone for religious purposes (seer stone) or are you looking for the earliest use of a stone (peep) by Joseph Smith to find lost or hidden items?
earliest use period.
"sometime between the age of eleven and thirteen (1817-19) Joseph Jr began following his father's example in using a diving rod."
"other sources specify that Joseph Jr. obtained his first seer stone in September 1819"
Early Mormonism and the Magic World View. pg 33
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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Fence Sitter wrote:"sometime between the age of eleven and thirteen (1817-19) Joseph Jr began following his father's example in using a diving rod."
"other sources specify that Joseph Jr. obtained his first seer stone in September 1819"
Early Mormonism and the Magic World View. pg 33
Thanks a lot, Mr. Sitter. now I got to go get my hands on that book to find the source for this. Ah well that's how it goes.
Love ya tons,
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stemelbow wrote:Fence Sitter wrote:"sometime between the age of eleven and thirteen (1817-19) Joseph Jr began following his father's example in using a diving rod."
"other sources specify that Joseph Jr. obtained his first seer stone in September 1819"
Early Mormonism and the Magic World View. pg 33
Thanks a lot, Mr. Sitter. now I got to go get my hands on that book to find the source for this. Ah well that's how it goes.
You are welcome Mr. Elbow :)
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"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."