Pornography poll

[_Droopy]

I'm redoing this here in the hopes of generating a more serious, critical discussion on the subject, as my last attempt in the Terrestrial failed, as usual, to generate much except the usual adolescent sniggering and cat-calling.

I do note some interesting statistics on the last polls, which I will look at shortly. I've structured the question and related answers a bit differently so as to provoke a way of looking at the question a little differently from the last poll.

[_Cardinal Biggles]

As a meta-ethical relativist, I voted for the last option. There is no absolute right or wrong; there is only personal opinion and preference, largely influenced (for most people) by tradition.

[_Tarski]

Is the Concept "Moral" Relevant to Pornography?


Relevant?

Yes. Of course.

[_gramps]

There is a kind of disconnect between the question and then the following choices.

Fail.

Try again.

[_subgenius]

...There is no absolute right or wrong....

obviously, just an "opinion" and not an absolute truth, therefore not a relevant point to anyone but you.......right?

[_Hades]

...There is no absolute right or wrong....

obviously, just an "opinion" and not an absolute truth, therefore not a relevant point to anyone but you.......right?

Could you provide us with a list of absolute right and wrongs?

[_subgenius]

Could you provide us with a list of absolute right and wrongs?

Sure, let us start with a short list.
1. The world exists.
2. I am currently alive
3. You are appalled by injustice


now, of course, legally speaking the term "absolute right" means a legally enforceable right to take some action or to refrain from acting at the sole discretion of the person having the right....but you probably meant something else, correct?

i assume you have already resolved the paradox that the proposition of a "flexible reality" is in and of itself an "absolute" proposition ?
without an absolute right or wrong then one can not logically impose accountability for any action or behavior. In other words, if you are a relativist then you can not honestly criticize a person who claims absolute right or wrong, because that would be a contradiction, and ergo a negation, of your own proposition.

[_Hades]

Could you provide us with a list of absolute right and wrongs?

Sure, let us start with a short list.
1. The world exists.
2. I am currently alive
3. You are appalled by injustice


now, of course, legally speaking the term "absolute right" means a legally enforceable right to take some action or to refrain from acting at the sole discretion of the person having the right....but you probably meant something else, correct?

i assume you have already resolved the paradox that the proposition of a "flexible reality" is in and of itself an "absolute" proposition ?
without an absolute right or wrong then one can not logically impose accountability for any action or behavior. In other words, if you are a relativist then you can not honestly criticize a person who claims absolute right or wrong, because that would be a contradiction, and ergo a negation, of your own proposition.

Where did I criticize any person who believes in absolute right or wrong? I was simply hoping you could provide us with a list we could all agree on.

[_Droopy]

As a meta-ethical relativist, I voted for the last option. There is no absolute right or wrong; there is only personal opinion and preference, largely influenced (for most people) by tradition.

If I take you and all of your family, relocate them to a forced labor camp for several years under conditions in which you and they are worked to exhaustion, brutally beaten, starved, and psychologically tormented on a regular basis, and then, when you and they are too weak to work any longer, fling you and them into a large, deep trench, and use bulldozers to bury them alive, and if I do all of this because, let's say, I don't like your ethnic background, or your socioeconomic background, have I

1. Committed a right or a wrong?

2. If a wrong, how do you know it is a wrong?

3. If a wrong, is it absolutely wrong, or only a relative moral perspective and a matter of subjective, personal preference?

[_Corpsegrinder]

Hey Droopy, don't you think the Telestial Kingdom would be a more appropriate place to play with your pornography poll?