Birth Control

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subgenius wrote:
The items scaring people away from the Church or causing people to leave are being treated with softer, more careful language.

no they are not....prove it


SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has changed the text of Boyd K. Packer’s sermon on morality, homosexuality and same-sex marriage.

Packer’s sermon claimed that homosexuality was not born of inbred “tendencies.”

In the Church’s online text version of Packer’s talk, the word “tendencies” was changed to “temptations.”

During his original talk, Elder Packer spoke of homosexual tendencies saying, "Some suppose that they were pre- set and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and unnatural. Not so. Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, he is our Father.”

Another change to Packer’s talk includes the omission of the entire sentence, “Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone?”
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subgenius wrote:
Typical PR type strategy.

typical? prove it


The main goal of a public relations department is to enhance a company’s reputation. Staff that work in public relations, or as it is commonly known, PR, are skilled publicists. They are able to present a company or individual to the world in the best light. The role of a public relations department can be seen as a reputation protector.

The business world of today is extremely competitive. Companies need to have an edge that makes them stand out from the crowd, something that makes them more appealing and interesting to both the public and the media. The public are the buyers of the product and the media are responsible for selling it.(A PR company explains their strategy)
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subgenius wrote:
Why does Gods divinely appointed spokesperson need a spokesperson?

why wouldn't he?


Here then is the grand key—Follow the prophet—and here are fourteen fundamentals in following the prophet, the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

First: The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.


I'm hoping that you will, when you get around to answering questions on threads, respond to the requests for proof with equal substance...
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Drifting wrote:
Here then is the grand key—Follow the prophet—and here are fourteen fundamentals in following the prophet, the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

First: The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.


I'm hoping that you will, when you get around to answering questions on threads, respond to the requests for proof with equal substance...

i see you have disregarded the other challenges to your post and cherry-picked this one, but that is to be expected considering the "substance" of your post.
Your quote here from Benson in 1980 has little to do with the prophet having, or not having, a spokesperson.
I have responded, in kind, to any requests for "proof", if you have any items outstanding why not bring them to my attention. My lack of response is seldom intentional when the inquiry is sincere.
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subgenius wrote:i see you have disregarded the other challenges to your post and cherry-picked this one, but that is to be expected considering the "substance" of your post.


I'm looking forward to your apology when you read further back into this thread.
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subgenius wrote:
Here then is the grand key—Follow the prophet—and here are fourteen fundamentals in following the prophet, the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

First: The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.


i see you have disregarded the other challenges to your post and cherry-picked this one, but that is to be expected considering the "substance" of your post.
Your quote here from Benson in 1980 has little to do with the prophet having, or not having, a spokesperson.


Prove it
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Drifting wrote:
Prove it

aside from the self-evident conclusion that your reference is absurd let us take a look.
A spokesperson is someone engaged or elected to speak on behalf of others.
Your quote says that the prophet speaks for the Lord.
OK, agreed.
Your quote says nothing about someone speaking for the prophet.
proved

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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:
Prove it

aside from the self-evident conclusion that your reference is absurd let us take a look.
A spokesperson is someone engaged or elected to speak on behalf of others.
Your quote says that the prophet speaks for the Lord.
OK, agreed.
Your quote says nothing about someone speaking for the prophet.
proved


So let me just quaff this semi-skimmed and ponder what you just said....

The Prophet is so busy speaking for God that he hasn't got time to speak for Thomas S Monson himself...

Okay. Got it.
Can you reference for me the things God's spokesperson has said on behalf of God over the course of the last month or two (It must be a lot if he hasn't got time to speak for himself).

Thanks in anticipation
*sluuuurp*

p.s. you still owe me an apology - see above in this thread...
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