How the Church spends tithing...

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Re: How the Church spends tithing...

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Nice try subby,

A third of all the tithing you donate goes to someone's salary.
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Subgenius seems to think his unwillingness to read linked references means they're not there. Adorable.
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Re: How the Church spends tithing...

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Here you go subby, verbatim from the year ending 31/12/2010 accounts for company number 00699764 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Donations £28,548 (excludes 'restricted' funds)

Staff costs:
Provision of worship facilities 4,253,000
Religious education 3,220,000
Missionary work 510,000
Genealogy work 3,410,000
Community projects 235,000

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So total tithing spent on staff costs (excluding travel etc) £11,628,000.
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Buffalo wrote:Subgenius seems to think his unwillingness to read linked references means they're not there. Adorable.


Poor Buffalo thinks that linking to "Google" is the same as providing a reference.....duly noted for future use.
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Drifting wrote:Here you go subby, verbatim from the year ending 31/12/2010 accounts for company number 00699764 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Donations £28,548 (excludes 'restricted' funds)

Staff costs:
Provision of worship facilities 4,253,000
Religious education 3,220,000
Missionary work 510,000
Genealogy work 3,410,000
Community projects 235,000

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So total tithing spent on staff costs (excluding travel etc) £11,628,000.

Again, got a working reference and/or link or should we just take your word for it?

Also, note that "staff costs" does not necessarily equate to "salary". For example, it may include salary, benefits, taxes, car allowances, housing allowances and premiums paid.(exclusive of administration costs)
Here is a link for my references http://lmgtfy.com/?q=staff+costs

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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:Here you go subby, verbatim from the year ending 31/12/2010 accounts for company number 00699764 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Donations £28,548 (excludes 'restricted' funds)

Staff costs:
Provision of worship facilities 4,253,000
Religious education 3,220,000
Missionary work 510,000
Genealogy work 3,410,000
Community projects 235,000

-------------------

So total tithing spent on staff costs (excluding travel etc) £11,628,000.

Again, got a working reference and/or link or should we just take your word for it?

Also, note that "staff costs" does not necessarily equate to "salary". For example, it may include salary, benefits, taxes, car allowances, housing allowances and premiums paid.(exclusive of administration costs)
Here is a link for my references http://lmgtfy.com/?q=staff+costs

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Rather than take my word for it, compare it to the financial information published by the Church...oh...wait....
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Drifting wrote:Rather than take my word for it, compare it to the financial information published by the Church...oh...wait....

long way around the barn for you to admit you are wrong.
but at least you have confirmed, by example, that not providing evidence for your claims calls them into suspicion.
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Re: How the Church spends tithing...

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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:Rather than take my word for it, compare it to the financial information published by the Church...oh...wait....

long way around the barn for you to admit you are wrong.
but at least you have confirmed, by example, that not providing evidence for your claims calls them into suspicion.


I have provided evidence.
I have pointed you in the direction of obtaining the evidence yourself.
Anyone can go to Companies House and obtain the financial records of the Church in the UK and in so doing, verify that the numbers I quote are absolutely factually correct.
If you are too lazy to do so that is hardly my fault.

Although I suspect you are following the example of an ostrich in the vicinity of sand when trouble approaches....
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