Test about Book of Mormon

[_Mittens]

1._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that Elohim (God the Father in Mormonism) was once a mortal man and that he was not always God?

2._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that God has a body of flesh and bones?

3._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that God is married in heaven?

4._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that men can become Gods?

5._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that temple participation is necessary to become exalted?

6._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach Jesus and Lucifer are brothers?

7._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach the blood of Christ does not cleanse certain sins?

8._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that a person can lose his salvation if he is not baptized on behalf of dead relatives?

9._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say there is more than one God?

10._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say males must hold either the Aaronic or Melchizedek Priesthood?

11._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say you can't drink coffee or tea?

12._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that there are "three degrees of glory"?

13._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that the Holy Ghost is a son of God just as Jesus is a son of God?

14. ______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that God allowed the Nephites to practice polygamy?

15._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that if a man wishes to be saved he must have a woman by his side?

16._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that faithful members must wear sacred undergarments that have the power to protect them?

17._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that official church doctrine must be voted on by the general membership?

18._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that the Black race (seed of Cain) survived the flood because the devil needed a representation on earth?

19._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that God is the offspring of another God who, in turn, is the offspring of still another God, etc.?

20._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that the highest level within the celestial kingdom is the "Church of the Firstborn"?

Answers

1. God a mortal man - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never says God was once a mortal. In fact, it teaches that God was always God. Take for instance Moroni 8:18. It says God is "unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity." Joseph Smith, however, taught, "We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and take away the veil so that you may see" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345).

2. God has a body of flesh - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never says God has a body of flesh and bones. On more than one occasion it clearly teaches that God is a God of spirit (see Alma 18:2-5, 24-28; Alma 22:9-11).

3. God is married - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never teaches God is married.

4. Men becoming Gods - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never says men can become Gods.

5. Temple participation - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never mentions mankind must participate in temple ordinances in order to become exalted.

6. Jesus and Lucifer brothers - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never teaches Jesus and Lucifer are brothers.

7. Cleansing power of Christ's blood - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Never does the Book of Mormon hint that there are sins beyond the cleansing power of Christ's blood. However, second LDS Prophet Brigham Young taught, "There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it; and the judgments of the Almighty will come, sooner or later, and every man and woman will have to atone for breaking their covenants (Discourses of Brigham Young, p.385). Mormon Apostle Bruce McConkie wrote, "But under certain circumstances there are some serious sins for which the cleansing of Christ does not operate, and the law of God is that men must have their own blood shed to atone for their sins" (Mormon Doctrine, pg. 92).

8. Baptism for the dead - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never teaches baptism for the dead is a necessary ordinance. In fact, the Book of Mormon teaches if a person dies in his sins, the devil has sealed him his and this is the final state of the wicked (see Alma 34:34,35). However, 10th LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated, "If we wilfully neglect the salvation of our dead, then also we shall stand rejected of the Lord, because we have neglected our dead; and just so sure their blood will be required at our hands ...we cannot be saved without them" (Doctrines of Salvation 2:145,149).

9. Plurality of Gods - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never teaches there is a plurality of Gods. In fact it strongly teaches there is only one true God (see Alma 11:26-29).

10. Priesthood - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never mentions either the Aaronic or Melchizedek priesthood.

11. Can't drink coffee or tea - If you said it doesn't, you're right. This is taken from Doctrine and Covenants 89. Still, this health law never mentions coffee or tea specifically, only "hot drinks." Mormon General authority George Q. Cannon included soup in this prohibition when he said, "We must not permit them to drink liquor or hot drinks, or hot soups or to use tobacco or other articles that are injurious" (Journal of Discourses 12:223).

12. Three degrees of glory - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The celestial, terrestrial and telestial kingdoms are never mentioned in the Book of Mormon.

13. Holy Ghost is a son of God - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Only Jesus and those who embrace Christ as their Savior are given that title in the Book of Mormon. Under the heading of "Holy Ghost," The Encyclopedia of Mormonism states, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that the Holy Ghost is a spirit man, a spirit son of God the Father."

14. God's approval of Nephite polygamy - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Jacob 2:27 makes it clear that the Nephites were to only have one wife and no concubines.

15. Must have a woman to be saved - If you said it doesn't, you're right. However, Brigham Young taught, "No man can be perfect without the woman, so no woman can be perfect without a man to lead her. I tell you the truth as it is in the bosom of eternity. If he wishes to be saved, he cannot be saved without a woman by his side" (as quoted on page 245 of The Miracle of Forgiveness).

16. Protective Garments - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never mentions "garments of the Holy Priesthood" yet temple Mormons are told that if they do not defile them, the garment will "be a shield and a protection" to them against the power of the destroyer.

17. Doctrine to be voted on - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Never were the words of the Book of Mormon prophets sustained by the believers in the Book of Mormon in order to be considered official teaching.

18. Seed of Cain - If you said it doesn't, you're right. However, third LDS Prophet John Taylor said, "And after the flood we are told that the curse that had been pronounced upon Cain was continued through Ham's wife, as he had married a wife of that seed. And why did it pass through the flood? Because it was necessary that the devil should have a representation upon the earth as well as God" (Journal of Discourses 22:304).

19. God having a father and grandfather - If you said it doesn't, you're right. However, Joseph Smith claimed, "If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg.373).

20. Church of the Firstborn - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Such an expression is never used in the Book of Mormon.

[_ludwigm]

You are boring.

[_Mittens]

You are boring.

That it ? Do you agree or disagree with post ?

[_ludwigm]

You are boring.

That it ? Do you agree or disagree with post ?

You are boring. That's all.

[_Drifting]

Interestingly The Book of Mormon contains the fullness of the Gospel so these points in the OP cannot be part of the Gospel.
The fact that the Church propagates these non Gospel ideas suggests, at least according to Christ, that it is an apostate organisation.

[_subgenius]

You are boring.

[_ldsfaqs]

1._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that Elohim (God the Father in Mormonism) was once a mortal man and that he was not always God?

Strawman alert....! Thou shalt not bear false witness.

1. The Bible, in fact Christ Himself taught that the Father was once a mortal man, apparently as HE WAS. Did you forget his statement where he said "he did nothing he hadn't seen his Father do"???
That is a clear statement, and can mean nothing else other than what it states, for there is no other context that can change the meaning. The Father apparently did the same kinds of things Christ was doing in his life.

2. Mormonism has NEVER taught that "God was not always God". In fact, we don't teach it about Christ either. Even though Christ was a mortal, he was still "God", because he is one of the Godhead. He was God before he came to earth. He holds the "office" of God. He along with the Holy Ghost with the Father makes him God and a God unto his own right.

Answers

1. God a mortal man - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never says God was once a mortal. In fact, it teaches that God was always God. Take for instance Moroni 8:18. It says God is "unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity." Joseph Smith, however, taught, "We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and take away the veil so that you may see" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345).

Problem with your statement, is you again bear false witness, ripping his statement out of context. Joseph was getting people to think and understand who we really are and can be and who God really is. After all, in LDS theology ALL of us are actually Gods, and have existed from Eternity to Eternity.

Further, LDS theology has always been clear on this subject. God has ALWAYS been God.
Christ didn't "cease" to be God simply because he was once a man.
Anyway, if you read Joseph's words IN CONTEXT, you would understand that he wasn't actually saying that. He was shocking to make a bigger point.

2._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that God has a body of flesh and bones?

Strawman alert....! Thou shalt not bear false witness.

1. I don't know, how bout Christ Himself??? He's God, and he came to earth and got a body with flesh and bones, AND was resurrected with it, just as we all will be. Funny, I don't know about you, but I don't believe Christ's "nature" is any different than the Fathers. Further, neither are ours. That was Christ's whole point....

Why the games for Christ to do all these "examples" of our and the God's nature is so different?
How are we going to inherit all the Father hath, stand on his Right Hand WITH Christ if we are "so different" from Him? It's because we aren't.

There is no reason to be raised with bodies, no reason for Christ doing all the games he did, unless our nature was and could be the same as the Father's. Why go through all this stuff for "peon's" and "nothings" as you believe we are, if not for a more literal purpose? It's because "bodies" DO have a purpose. It's because Christ IS separate from the Father in body, but ONE in purpose, power, and Glory, AND even some substance, because after all, Christ is the Father's literal son. Unfortunately, you all have perverted "substance" to mean body, rather than matter, genetics, and lineage.

2. God has a body of flesh - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never says God has a body of flesh and bones. On more than one occasion it clearly teaches that God is a God of spirit (see Alma 18:2-5, 24-28; Alma 22:9-11).

Again, strawman alert..... The Bible also teaches "man is spirit"..... Yet we all know man isn't ONLY spirit.

Further, use your brain..... If God was "only" spirit as you believe, he would have no need for the Holy Ghost, who is a spirit by the way.

See, what you don't understand is that the Holy Ghost is the Agent of the Fathers Spiritual side and will. And Christ is the Agent of the Father's Physical side and will.

Your "mind, body, spirit" claim of Trinity is flawed. What I just said is the actual nature of "God", ie the Godhead. The Father is spirit AND matter, for he controls and is the master of both. Now think for a moment. Ever notice that Satan is only spirit? Notice how he was "punished" by not being given a BODY??? Notice also how Satan was a Son of the Morning, one of the Morning stars, right there with Christ in Heaven?

See, you don't understand that you have been brainwashed by religions of men instead of actually knowing the Bible for yourself, and comparing religions objectively.

Anyway, I don't have the time or interest in going through your entire list.....
My main point in responding to you is that the vast majority of your list, what you condemn as not being in the Book of Mormon IS ACTUALLY FOUND IN THE Bible!!!

You further forget that the Bible is only a "compilation" of scriptures, put together by the Catholic Church, then changed a little by the Protestants, and then you have the Orthodox Church's Bibles which are also different. The Book of Mormon and other latter-day scriptures are simply further scripture, no different than any of the other scriptures that have been added AND removed by the various religions. By themselves, they only speak of certain things.

Or are you telling me any book in the Bible "by itself" contains ALL the truths and Word of God???
The Bible is only a compilation of scripture, that of Judah, while the Book of Mormon is a compilation of that of Ephriam. God didn't say the Bible was the END of all truth? When did he say that for you attacks to be valid??? He didn't say the Book of Mormon was the end of all truth either.

See, you make "assumptions", that simply because the Bible is "old" as a particular compilation, that that's what God wanted, and that's the end of His Word. I've seen nothing in history or in scripture that says that, have you??? But you believe it.... What's worse, is that you ignore the fact that there are scriptures that even still exist, that Christ Himself and the Apostles quoted from, and yet "Christianity" has put in and removed them and others from the so-called "infallible" Bible.....

I don't know about you, but if Christ thought they were good enough scripture to quote from, why is it that most of the Christian world doesn't include them in the Bible??? Could it be that maybe MAN is in charge of creating the Bible, and what is His Word, rather than he??? Of course, to be fair, we don't use those scriptures either, but what we do have is the fullness of the Gospel, thus whatever the Bible doesn't have, or is not as clear, it's elsewhere.

Anyway, bottom line, is you tell a bunch of lies and misrepresentations, and then proceed to attack, usually with further misrepresentations and lies.

If you want to know the FULL truth and facts on those issues, and what we really believe, read our scholarship and our official publications, such as http://www.fairlds.org and http://www.LDS.org

Our beliefs are fully open..... The world doesn't need deceivers like you "quote mining" and perverting our words and beliefs.

[_Mittens]

Interestingly The Book of Mormon contains the fullness of the Gospel so these points in the OP cannot be part of the Gospel.
The fact that the Church propagates these non Gospel ideas suggests, at least according to Christ, that it is an apostate organisation.

Bruce mcConkie trying to explain

Our revelations say that the Book of Mormon contains the fullness of Gospel. { D&C 20:9, 27:5. 42:12, 135:3 } This is true in the sense that Book of Mormon is a record of God's dealings with a people who had the fulness of the gospel and therefore the laws and priciples leading to the highest salvation are found recorded in that book.
The fullness consists in those laws, doctrines, ordnances, powers, and authorities needed to enable men to gain the fullness of salvation. Mormon Doctrine page

These teachings and doctrines are in accord with the statement of the Prophet Joseph Smith that the principles of the gospel are “according to the Holy Scriptures, and the Book of Mormon; and the only way that man can enter into the celestial kingdom.” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 16.) The fulness of the gospel as contained in the Book of Mormon means that it contains those instructions a person needs to observe in order to be worthy to enter the presence of God in the celestial kingdom.The Ensign 09/1985

Fulness of the Gospel,, by fullness of the gospel, is meant all the ordinances and principles that pertain to the exaltation in celestial kingdom…Doctrine of Salvation Vol. 1 page 160 Joseph Fielding Smith.
Sept 1976 Ensign I have a Question

[_PrickKicker]

Mittens they are all good questions, but when you just 'Ctrl+C/Ctrl+P' every one off your posts it is quite clear that your gripe and intellect is not personal but corporate.

An apologist can answer those questions by association, Not all Mormon theology is contained with in the pages of even the most correct book on earth, drawn by cavemen in stick figures, God calls modern day prophets to lead and guide the people in their time and they can add, change and rescind Gods word as and when it suits them, and the laws of the land.

Without sounding racist or nationalist, Is English your 1st Language?
the reason I ask is... when you do add your own comments to your web trawled pasting it is more often than not goobledee-gooke.

When the questions you post are closed and or leading, you lower yourself to the level of a Mormon Missionary.
They are taught use questions that place the (investigators/person dumb enough to stop and talks) mind at the entrance of a psychological maze, without you knowing it they are controlling your thoughts with their words, and because the majority of people that are polite enough to even begin to answer their questions don't know the techniques used, they end up deep in the maze and the only way out is to take back control by not falling for it in the first place, unless you are mentally strong enough don't even go there. its so deep routed in their psyche that some of them don't even know what it is they are doing.

LDSFAGs: STRAWMAN ALERT!!! STFU! Your as bad as Mittens!

[_Drifting]

Fulness of the Gospel,, by fullness of the gospel, is meant all the ordinances and principles that pertain to the exaltation in celestial kingdom…Doctrine of Salvation Vol. 1 page 160 Joseph Fielding Smith.
Sept 1976 Ensign I have a Question

Exactly, if the ordinances of the Temple aren't in the Book of Mormon then they aren't part of the fulness of the Gospel and therefore don't pertain to exaltation.