moksha wrote:What better way than to offer us a political philosophy which emphasizes the personal greed of the individual rather than social justice for all?
Please define what "social justice for all" looks like. Thank you.
Personally, I think it probably looks like sunburst or a Norman Rockwell painting, but the whole issue is way too complex for me to adequately define. I know that it involves equity for the masses and does not allow a stark division between have and have nots. It does not allow starvation for many while a few dine on truffles. It does not make provision for marble mansions while many have no roof over their head on a cold winter night. It does not banish a mother in delivery to a manger to save those with many golden shekels from the tax man.
Droopy wrote:When socialists/leftists say that something is "public," what are they really saying?
That it has not yet been usurped by the private sector due to questionable money making potential. The air we breath is public, because there is no reliable means of cornering the market.
I am, at this moment, eating a plate of Ramen noodles. In the noodles is some corn. In what way has Wal-Mart, where I bought the packs of noodles, the manufacturer of the noodles, and the grower/processor of the corn "usurped" any of these substances? From whom? How is ownership determined? What happens if the concept of ownership breaks down? How is a freely chosen, peaceful, uncoerced contractual relationship between free human beings a form of "usurpation"?
There is no "cornering" of any markets in an open, free-market context except for some very exotic or highly specified commodities/goods. There are many producers of corn, oriental noodles, and the raw materials used to either manufacture and/or process these products. Wal-Mart itself is in competition with a large number of other establishments who sell the same or closely related products.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
moksha wrote:What better way than to offer us a political philosophy which emphasizes the personal greed of the individual rather than social justice for all?
Please define what "social justice for all" looks like. Thank you.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
moksha wrote: Personally, I think it probably looks like sunburst or a Norman Rockwell painting, but the whole issue is way too complex for me to adequately define. I know that it involves equity for the masses and does not allow a stark division between have and have nots. It does not allow starvation for many while a few dine on truffles. It does not make provision for marble mansions while many have no roof over their head on a cold winter night. It does not banish a mother in delivery to a manger to save those with many golden shekels from the tax man.
At this point, we have roughly 120-million people (and climbing, the scholarship on this is still developing, post Berlin Wall) that have gone to the alter as sacrificial lambs for the concept of "social justice."
How many more, Mok?
Entire economies destroyed, lives blasted and stunted, and societies raped. How many more, Mok?
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Entire economies destroyed, lives blasted and stunted, and societies raped. How many more, Mok?
Hey, do you mind if William Jennings Bryant borrows that for his cross of gold speech? The use of a rape metaphor would punch things up a bit.
So you are saying the Kingdom of Ozymandias was poking along just fine until the concept of social justice entered the picture, then poof. Now all that is left is an autographed photo of Daniel C. Peterson and a box of well hidden Krusty Kreme donuts.
