You were proven wrong. I didn't know any of this until the Spirit showed me. Instead of admitting your error, you double down. That's the arrogance and pride of this forum in full display.Shulem wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:57 pmValo,
It's my fault for allowing this thread (116-page Manuscript) to venture off into a lost vineyard. After this, would you mind if we continue this discussion down in the Terrestrial forum where my thread Vineyard vs. Orchard & Oliveyard focuses strictly on this subject? However, if you don't mind, I would like to comment on your last post and will do so here. I may decide to copy this post and paste it in the other thread.
I have no problem with planting vineyards and oliveyards "ALONGSIDE" of each other whether in ancient times or today. But I do have a problem with planting an olive grove (orchard) *in* an ancient Jewish vineyard because the Law of Moses forbids it (Deut 22:9, Lev 19:19). And we can assume that Zenos followed the Law of Moses and kept that charge strictly. You will recall that pious Nephites & Lamanites were strict (Alma 30:3, Hel 12:1) to keep the Law of Moses and would have followed suit in maintaining husbandry according to the Law of Moses which was contained on the brass plates.
How hardly would Moses or Zenos be obliged to harken to what Gentiles in 1300 AD thought about vineyard husbandry! The Law of Moses was the standard! Valo, your apologetic reasoning is fatally flawed.
Valo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:17 pmAlso vineyard has meant "a ground planted with vines" not grape vines, just vines, since before Joseph Smith was born.
https://books.google.com/books?id=z3kKA ... rd&f=false
Please note that your citation:
VINEYARD, (vin'-yard) A ground planted with vines.
Does not include olives because trees don't grow on vines!
But the Spirit already showed me your response.

Yout criticism of the Book of Mormon is actually strong evidence of it's authenticity.
