Faith Based Threads in Celestial Forum

[_dartagnan]

Disclosure of moderators is irrelevant. What does it matter who they are?

JAK, why don't yo tell us who you are? You have more reason to be embarrassed than any moderator anywhere. Fairy tales about being a retired professor don't mean much to those of us who know better.

[_Jersey Girl]

More important than number of posts is full disclosure of who is a “moderator.”

That information should appear every time a moderator posts in any thread so all understand who has the power to delete, move, move back, or whatever a moderator subjectively can do. We only know who is a moderator by accident of discovery. Pictures and labels may be cute, but they are irrelevant to the power to terminate discussion if a “moderator” or a committee of moderators caucus to entirely “derail” a discussion by termination

There is a moderator link on every forum here that lists the moderators.

Go to the Forum Index and scan down each forum heading. You'll see that a moderator link is available on each one.

[_JAK]

Yes, and it is necessarily a subjective, judgmental call.

That is correct. I have never denied that all moderation is subjective to whatever degree.

Hence the reason I A) keep a tight leash on my moderators and B) try my best to earn y'all's trust.

Now Shades,

Do you consider these posts appropriate in the “Celestial” group”?

Post 1
Post 2

They are personal attack.

They discuss NO issue, no topic, and are quite irrelevant to the stated topic at the beginning of this thread.

It is precisely this kind of post which should be deleted.

JAK

[_JAK]

More important than number of posts is full disclosure of who is a “moderator.”

That information should appear every time a moderator posts in any thread so all understand who has the power to delete, move, move back, or whatever a moderator subjectively can do. We only know who is a moderator by accident of discovery. Pictures and labels may be cute, but they are irrelevant to the power to terminate discussion if a “moderator” or a committee of moderators caucus to entirely “derail” a discussion by termination

There is a moderator link on every forum here that lists the moderators.

Go to the Forum Index and scan down each forum heading. You'll see that a moderator link is available on each one.

It says moderators. Clicking on "moderators" give nothing. I am open to be shown just how that works.

In any case, the moderator are not clearly revealed if you have to hunt them up.

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I have found the little word at the top. I accept your point that one can find moderators. It's not made obvious.

JAK

[_Jersey Girl]

More important than number of posts is full disclosure of who is a “moderator.”

That information should appear every time a moderator posts in any thread so all understand who has the power to delete, move, move back, or whatever a moderator subjectively can do. We only know who is a moderator by accident of discovery. Pictures and labels may be cute, but they are irrelevant to the power to terminate discussion if a “moderator” or a committee of moderators caucus to entirely “derail” a discussion by termination

There is a moderator link on every forum here that lists the moderators.

Go to the Forum Index and scan down each forum heading. You'll see that a moderator link is available on each one.

It says moderators. Clicking on "moderators" give nothing. I am open to be shown just how that works.

In any case, the moderator are not clearly revealed if you have to hunt them up.

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I have found the little word at the top. I accept your point that one can find moderators. It's not made obvious.

JAK

It's a link that appears when you view the Forum Index as well as each forum when you open it. What would you suggest in the way of improvement?

[_marg]

Yes, and it is necessarily a subjective, judgmental call.

That is correct. I have never denied that all moderation is subjective to whatever degree.

Hence the reason I A) keep a tight leash on my moderators and B) try my best to earn y'all's trust.

Now Shades,

Do you consider these posts appropriate in the “Celestial” group”?

Post 1
Post 2

They are personal attack.

They discuss NO issue, no topic, and are quite irrelevant to the stated topic at the beginning of this thread.

It is precisely this kind of post which should be deleted.

JAK

Exactly. I think if it is claimed the Celestial is heavily moderated, that moderation should be to improve and raise the level of discussions. People who use excessive fallacious personal attacks waste everyone's time. If a person can not make their argument without personal attack there is a problem with their argument.

[_Yoda]

Here is the list of Mods:

Dr. Shades(Founder of the Board)
Keene(Site Administrator)
Liz3564
Bond..James Bond
Jersey Girl
Scottie

[_JAK]

More important than number of posts is full disclosure of who is a “moderator.”

That information should appear every time a moderator posts in any thread so all understand who has the power to delete, move, move back, or whatever a moderator subjectively can do. We only know who is a moderator by accident of discovery. Pictures and labels may be cute, but they are irrelevant to the power to terminate discussion if a “moderator” or a committee of moderators caucus to entirely “derail” a discussion by termination

There is a moderator link on every forum here that lists the moderators.

Go to the Forum Index and scan down each forum heading. You'll see that a moderator link is available on each one.

It says moderators. Clicking on "moderators" give nothing. I am open to be shown just how that works.

In any case, the moderator are not clearly revealed if you have to hunt them up.

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I have found the little word at the top. I accept your point that one can find moderators. It's not made obvious.

JAK

It's a link that appears when you view the Forum Index as well as each forum when you open it. What would you suggest in the way of improvement?

I suggest that right below the number of posts or in that location, a person who is a moderator should be identified as moderator.

A person who has few posts to this forum would not know who can take him/her out in a flash.

I also think any post which is a personal attack by name, by name calling, by insult should be removed in its entirety.

JAK

[_Jersey Girl]

More important than number of posts is full disclosure of who is a “moderator.”

That information should appear every time a moderator posts in any thread so all understand who has the power to delete, move, move back, or whatever a moderator subjectively can do. We only know who is a moderator by accident of discovery. Pictures and labels may be cute, but they are irrelevant to the power to terminate discussion if a “moderator” or a committee of moderators caucus to entirely “derail” a discussion by termination

There is a moderator link on every forum here that lists the moderators.

Go to the Forum Index and scan down each forum heading. You'll see that a moderator link is available on each one.

It says moderators. Clicking on "moderators" give nothing. I am open to be shown just how that works.

In any case, the moderator are not clearly revealed if you have to hunt them up.

+++

I have found the little word at the top. I accept your point that one can find moderators. It's not made obvious.

JAK

It's a link that appears when you view the Forum Index as well as each forum when you open it. What would you suggest in the way of improvement?

I suggest that right below the number of posts or in that location, a person who is a moderator should be identified as moderator.

A person who has few posts to this forum would not know who can take him/her out in a flash.

I also think any post which is a personal attack by name, by name calling, by insult should be removed in its entirety.

JAK

Shades,

Can we do that? I'm assuming that if it can be done, admin has to do it.

Jersey Girl

[_JAK]

Here is the list of Mods:

Dr. Shades(Founder of the Board)
Keene(Site Administrator)
Liz3564
Bond..James Bond
Jersey Girl
Scottie

That’s great. But it does not make clear on a regular basis who is moderator, Liz.

It’s one post which will be soon lost along in the hundreds/thousands of posts.

Suppose you get a new person in several weeks. Is that person going to see this post of yours April 3 at 7:21? It’s most unlikely.

Put “moderator” right up with when the person joined or how many posts the person has. Make it clear and transparent. New people and previous posters should not have to guess or hunt in some relatively obscure place for the moderators.

JAK