LDS Church and Politics without coffee...

[_Dr. Shades]

How does exercising one's right to vote and to influence others how to vote equate to imposition?

When damnation is threatened.

[_The Nehor]

How does exercising one's right to vote and to influence others how to vote equate to imposition?

When damnation is threatened.

How is this that different then pointing out that if the Republicans (or Democrats) get elected it will result in anarchy, the destruction of the American Way of Life, and probably the collapse of society as a whole?

[_Dr. Shades]

How is this that different then pointing out that if the Republicans (or Democrats) get elected it will result in anarchy, the destruction of the American Way of Life, and probably the collapse of society as a whole?

Religious leaders should have higher morals than your average politician. If you disagree, then I don't know what else to say.

[_The Nehor]

How is this that different then pointing out that if the Republicans (or Democrats) get elected it will result in anarchy, the destruction of the American Way of Life, and probably the collapse of society as a whole?

Religious leaders should have higher morals than your average politician. If you disagree, then I don't know what else to say.

I disagree. I think everyone should be judged on the same moral scale. As a difference though I have never heard hellfire used overtly or even implied in any of the times where the Church has brought to the member's attention a political issue they feel they need to take a stand on.

[_mentalgymnast]

I'd rather see the Church a little more involved in politics.

If you had your way, just how involved in politics would it be, and what would such involvement look like?

Like this:

http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/21/new ... -november/

Click on link: "memo to the church"

This is sufficient in this particular case. Members can now choose whether or not to rally around the cause.

Regards,
MG

[_Dr. Shades]

I disagree. I think everyone should be judged on the same moral scale.

In such cases as these, I contend that people and organizations ought to be judged according to the moral codes that they claim to follow.

Politicians don't claim to be representatives of God with a monopoly on His authority. The LDS church does. As such, they should take the moral high ground by not meddling in politics.

As a difference though I have never heard hellfire used overtly or even implied in any of the times where the Church has brought to the member's attention a political issue they feel they need to take a stand on.

But they'll be excommunicated if they openly oppose the marching orders that the church issues.

[_bcspace]

I disagree. I think everyone should be judged on the same moral scale.

That's why there's the preaching of the gospel to the dead (1 Peter 4:6).

[_moksha]

I disagree. I think everyone should be judged on the same moral scale.

That's why there's the preaching of the gospel to the dead (1 Peter 4:6).

An in the case of the High Priests, to the somnabulant as well.

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

Personally, I feel uncomfortable anytime I see the Church blended with politics. It is like they are striking up a deal with Mammon, and that cannot be good for the Church. Even if Church members have gotten themselves entangled with right wing politics, it is better if they do not drag the Church into it.

The Church is an international entity, dealing with diverse groups of people, and whose mission can only be hurt by an identification with American right wing politics. Let if focus instead on being the Church of Jesus Christ.

Just a thought.


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I think they should concentrate solely on right-wing politics. That's something they know about first-hand; Jesus Christ, they don't.

[_moksha]

I think they should concentrate solely on right-wing politics.

There is nothing wrong with individual members engaging in right-wing politics. On the Terrestrial forum, they have even talked about a very prominent member having strong Nazi leanings. That I think is fine as long as they make it clear that extreme politics is something they do on their own time. However, there are some such as BC and Droopy that think if one has political views outside of right-wing politics, that disqualifies them by definition from being a good LDS member. Here once again we are into defining the LDS religion by politics.

Perhaps for some the Church and right-wing politics are inextricably linked, however, I think this linkage is to the detriment of the Church.