I am telling you, over on that other board they pull out grotesque Old Testament verses about wives being given to David as a reward as justification. It's been done here, too.
Here is an example where God gives married women to another man:
2 Sam. 12:11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.
Oh I agree, they can come up with any old twaddle to justify the whoredoms of Joseph & co. Nevermind that 2 Sam was intended as a punishment for the wicked (albeit a gross one from a gross and perverse Yahweh), not as something that the righteous like Brother Jacobs had to endure from prophets.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Notice that the good prophet treats women as his personal property.
And was a scumbag because of it, in my opinion.
I'm sorry. I would like an apologist here to answer how this action was justified.
People really should learn not to believe everything they read, and to instead research the FULL truth and facts related to a subject. The actual truth isn't always so "simple".
by the way.... No, this is not a case of when LDS would "whip out their handy dandy Old Testament and quote where Jehovah gave wives to David...or Solomon..."
Thus, another example of anti-mormon lying and tranferring their own prejudices and ignorance is if such is the same thing as "fact".
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Oh, I think this is the passage that has been used on this and the other board:
2 Sam. 12:7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I aanointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; 8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.
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Thank you, Obiwan and Jason, for the reference to Alan Wyatt's article.
I must say, after reading the article, I am only further saddened by the complications and sorrow that polygamy and, in Zina's case, polyandry, caused among the Saints.
I still see no righteous reason for these unions.
I am grateful that the Church no longer practices polygamy, and that it is not a requirement for exaltation.
I will say here and now that if God really does objectify women, and attempts to command me to participate in a polygamous marriage in the hereafter, I will choose eternal damnation.
Liz.... Frankly then you completely don't understand Plural Marriage in God's eyes. It's a higher law of LOVE.... Not lust, not perversion, or anything else. When it's practiced according to God's ways, it's pure and beautiful and completely non-compulsory. This is how the Church in most instances practiced it. This is not how apostate sects practice it. They have lost the light.
I once condemned Polygamy also..... But I was so wrong, completely looking at it how the world does, not how God does, and also as to the full facts of the institution.
liz3564 wrote:Nothing will change my thoughts on this.
I think President Gordon Hinckley would answer that we should not be troubled by these flecks and glitches in our history since they do not represent what we are about today and that he was not sure we even teach that since such purported doctrines could more easily have been derived from a sexual itch than from a holy commandment.
Obiwan wrote:Liz.... Frankly then you completely don't understand Plural Marriage in God's eyes. It's a higher law of LOVE.... Not lust, not perversion, or anything else. When it's practiced according to God's ways, it's pure and beautiful and completely non-compulsory. This is how the Church in most instances practiced it. This is not how apostate sects practice it. They have lost the light.
I once condemned Polygamy also..... But I was so wrong, completely looking at it how the world does, not how God does, and also as to the full facts of the institution.
I appreciate your thoughts on this, Obiwan. We will have to agree to disagree.