Hell - Is it going to b very crowded? - The Bell Hell debate

[_bcspace]

Hell is being forced to live with religious people for eternity.

That is exactly what D&C 76:99-106 says.

[_Hades]

Hell is waking up on Sunday morning knowing you have to get ready for yet another 3 hour block. How you would like to stay home and do something fun, something meaningful, instead. You push the evil thought out of your mind. You tell yourself you love church. You tell yourself you will be inspired this time. You tell yourself the spirit will be there.

What keeps you from missing church just this once? The fear that has been planted in your brain. You can't be a church skipper. What would the wife think? What would the ward members think? What would the in-laws think? Besides, you would be a negligent parent if the kids saw such a poor example.

As you get ready, you try to convince yourself that church isn't boring. It's meaningful, it really is.

At the end of the long haul, three hour tour, you can't wait to get home. It was run of the mill, a real snore fest, but you won't tell yourself that. What flies over your head again is that hell is fear.

[_ErikJohnson]

Hell is waking up on Sunday morning knowing you have to get ready for yet another 3 hour block. How you would like to stay home and do something fun, something meaningful, instead. You push the evil thought out of your mind. You tell yourself you love church. You tell yourself you will be inspired this time. You tell yourself the spirit will be there.

What keeps you from missing church just this once? The fear that has been planted in your brain. You can't be a church skipper. What would the wife think? What would the ward members think? What would the in-laws think? Besides, you would be a negligent parent if the kids saw such a poor example.

As you get ready, you try to convince yourself that church isn't boring. It's meaningful, it really is.

At the end of the long haul, three hour tour, you can't wait to get home. It was run of the mill, a real snore fest, but you won't tell yourself that. What flies over your head again is that hell is fear.

Obviously you shouldn't go. God judges the heart (Hebrews 4:12)--and if your motive is fear of man ("what willl ____ think?") then you're just wasting the time God has given you.

That said, I'm not persuaded you can equate an LDS service to actual hell. Read Luke 16:19-31 for comparison.

Regards,

--Erik

[_Hades]

Obviously you shouldn't go. God judges the heart (Hebrews 4:12)--and if your motive is fear of man ("what willl ____ think?") then you're just wasting the time God has given you.

That said, I'm not persuaded you can equate an LDS service to actual hell. Read Luke 16:19-31 for comparison.

Regards,

--Erik

12For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

This is talking about the word of God that comes to the soul as it is in prayerful meditation. This word is more powerful than any word spoken from a pulpit or written in a book.

[_bcspace]

This is talking about the word of God that comes to the soul as it is in prayerful meditation. This word is more powerful than any word spoken from a pulpit or written in a book.

According to Ephesians 4:11-14, you don't have the word of God (the doctrine) except through the Church organization.

[_Hades]

According to Ephesians 4:11-14, you don't have the word of God (the doctrine) except through the Church organization.

That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Yeah, that sounds like just what we get from the church organization.

[_Wisdom Seeker]

Mr.Space, while you have your Bible open to Ephesians, you may want to also read Ephesians 2:8-9.

[_bcspace]

Yeah, that sounds like just what we get from the church organization.

Yes. We're quite grounded. I notice especially that our critics must strain at gnats in order to make hay.

Mr.Space, while you have your Bible open to Ephesians, you may want to also read Ephesians 2:8-9.

Amen. But James 2:24 is also true as is 1 Peter 3:21 et. al. Hence works are required for salvation and grace is the operation that saves.

You might also want to take note of Matthew 25:31-46 wherein we see those who did the works are saved and those who did not go to hell.

[_bcuzbcuz]

The question isn't whether or not hell will be crowded but whether anyone will want to stay in heaven. It will be soooooo boring in heaven that people will be pleading for even a short visit to hell, just to relieve the monotony.

Think about it for a minute. Could you spend eternity... I mean a very, very long eternity locked in the same room as your Mormon church buddies?? Just think of it as an endless sacrament meeting, going on and on and on, forever.....and forever, amen

You'll be pleading for relief after 15 hours with closed minded dolts, each one convinced that they and only they have the absolute truth.

[_The Nehor]

The question isn't whether or not hell will be crowded but whether anyone will want to stay in heaven. It will be soooooo boring in heaven that people will be pleading for even a short visit to hell, just to relieve the monotony.

No, it won't. Joy is the serious business of heaven. There will be pleasure forevermore.

Think about it for a minute. Could you spend eternity... I mean a very, very long eternity locked in the same room as your Mormon church buddies?? Just think of it as an endless sacrament meeting, going on and on and on, forever.....and forever, amen

If heaven were an endless sacrament meeting I'd have left the Church years ago. Elements of it may be there but sitting in a pew while someone talks.....no.

You'll be pleading for relief after 15 hours with closed minded dolts, each one convinced that they and only they have the absolute truth.

The dogmatic won't be in heaven either. Dogmatism even about the truth cuts you off from new truths and revelation.