Fence Sitter wrote:Why do you think the LDS as a whole do not do theology?
We do history. That's the discipline into which our best energy has typically gone.
As with Jews and Muslims
Two groups who's scriptures and claims actually have an acknowledged history by archaeologist and historians. Attempts to climb on academic coat tails would be a bit embarrassing for most "proclaimed scholars"!!! Not so much for those making claims here though, I see!
"It's not so much that FARMS scholarship in the area Book of Mormon historicity is "rejected' by the secular academic community as it is they are "ignored". [Daniel Peterson, May, 2004]
Daniel Peterson wrote:What would a Latter-day Saint with a degree in theology do for a living? The options for doing something in the field would be severely limited, if not essentially nonexistent.
One could teach, as Phil Barlow and others with Th.D.'s have done.
How do I get myself into these situations?
Well if you are like me, it's a combination of procrastination and putting too many things on your plate--usually resulting with procrastinating everything on the plate.
You're absolutely vile and obnoxious paternalistic air of intellectual superiority towards anyone who takes issue with your clear misapprehension of core LDS doctrine must give one pause. - Droopy
Joey wrote:Two groups who's scriptures and claims actually have an acknowledged history by archaeologist and historians. Attempts to climb on academic coat tails would be a bit embarrassing for most "proclaimed scholars"!!! Not so much for those making claims here though, I see!
Care to respond, or would you rather just continue to bask in the dark glory of ignorance?
You're absolutely vile and obnoxious paternalistic air of intellectual superiority towards anyone who takes issue with your clear misapprehension of core LDS doctrine must give one pause. - Droopy
the narrator wrote:One could teach, as Phil Barlow and others with Th.D.'s have done.
True. But the opportunities for LDS to teach theology are much, much more limited than they are, relatively speaking, for mainstream Christians, since (a) we run no divinity schools and (b) we're typically unwelcome at the divinity schools of other denominations. There are, however, some exceptions. Phil is a good one.
the narrator wrote:
How do I get myself into these situations?
Well if you are like me, it's a combination of procrastination and putting too many things on your plate--usually resulting with procrastinating everything on the plate.
I love to procrastinate, but I don't even have time for it any more. I've overcommitted so badly that I simply can't take care of things in advance. Everything is always urgent. My desperation is perpetual.
Joseph wrote:Are there a buncy of inaccurate current programs floating around out there?
Some materials were circulating with incorrect rooms listed for certain program sessions. I hope that we've caught most or all of those, but I'm not sure.
Daniel Peterson wrote:What would a Latter-day Saint with a degree in theology do for a living? The options for doing something in the field would be severely limited, if not essentially nonexistent.
That is an excellent point. It would be like a trained art historian seeking a job as a museum curator when the position had always been filled with insurance salesmen and orthodontists, who were chosen by an inspired selection committee. It was the familiarity with the selection committee members and the inspiration which truly counted for this museum job.
Which of the speakers are not LDS. Have LDS scholars done any studies of the Pentecostal's their chief rival in the religion marketplace? Here in Australia they are growing (eg Hillsong), have been establlishing private colleges (not just Bible Colleges). I see the accreditation paperwork sometimes in the course of my job and they are required to have a high standard in terms of library holdings, broadness of the subject matter (e.g both Bultmann and Van Til) and requiring teachers have PHds or on the way there.
Hilary Clinton " I won the places that represent two-thirds of America's GDP.I won in places are optimistic diverse, dynamic, moving forward"
aussieguy55 wrote:Which of the speakers are not LDS.
My friend Sanjay Merchant is the only one I know who is not LDS this year.
You're absolutely vile and obnoxious paternalistic air of intellectual superiority towards anyone who takes issue with your clear misapprehension of core LDS doctrine must give one pause. - Droopy
Dan or Narrator I would be interested in either one of your thoughts regarding the following.
McMurrin in"Theological Foundations" (pg 35) makes a point about how more often than not Mormon theological writing and sermonizing are replete with the vocabulary of absolutism because we like words that begin with 'omni' but that "like it or not, the Mormon theologian must sooner or later return to the finitistic conception of God upon which his technical theology and his theological myths are founded."
I know I have had discussions with other members about the nature of God and eternity. Any suggestion of a limited God seems to be met with horror and at the same time any suggestion of a timeless eternity is not understood. I don't think we spend much time nor understand very well, at the layman level, the concept of eternity or the infinite in the Church yet so much of what we are doing is working toward rewards that involve those concepts. Wouldn't a better understanding of both those concepts enhance our understanding of eternal rewards and progression?
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."