Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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It would be better if the Church took some money, found somone who is honest, who doesn't want power and start PR for the person. Let people at least fight on a good side. Also, if Nephi took out Laban then the Church could take out certain people who hurt the society. If you want to know how then read the Dogs of War.
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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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If not, why not?


Because miracles follow them that believe.
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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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bcspace wrote:
If not, why not?


Because miracles follow them that believe.


Because active believing sets up a confirmation bias as well as a tendency to confabulate on the topic of miracles.

For example, we wouldn't be surprised to find that people who believe in fairies (a common belief in times past) tend to see the fairies or at least interpret small puzzles such as missing items or moved items as due to the meddling of fairies.
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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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harmony wrote:People are dying because other people want them to die. And those other people control access to all the food, shelter, and ammunition.

God has nothing to do with it.


Belief in the return to a loving God on his home turf serves as a comfort to many of us. It's gotta be better than a place where homicidal warlords exist.
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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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Tarski wrote:
Because active believing sets up a confirmation bias as well as a tendency to confabulate on the topic of miracles.

For example, we wouldn't be surprised to find that people who believe in fairies (a common belief in times past) tend to see the fairies or at least interpret small puzzles such as missing items or moved items as due to the meddling of fairies.


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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
just me wrote:Why doesn't God drop Manna to them?



Probably because He is too busy helping my wife decide what type of hardwood floor would be best for our kitchen. My wife has actually prayed about this. I imagine there are lots of Mormon women monopolizing God's time with their requests for help in deciding which furnishings or clothes they should buy.


Your wife and Africa will just have to wait, so long as my eldest continues to lose the van keys. Sorry, but I've got more powerful priesthood.

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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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3sheets2thewind wrote:
keithb wrote:
So, priesthood holders: do you accept my challenge? Will you fly to Africa and begin helping the sick and starving Africans using your priesthood power?

If not, why not?


No I will not. Why? All things must be done in wisdom and order, to leave my job - which I just got 3 weeks ago after 2 years of unemployment, which job provides health insurance, is not a wise approach to taking care of my family.


Isn't it true that once your new employer sees you are able to perform a mighty miracle, she'd welcome you back with open arms?

And, who needs health insurance when the healing power of the priesthood courses through your veins?

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

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ANSWER: the priesthood carries no more power than that of anyone reading this post.

Blaming any individual, or the church, for failure to march into Somalia and assist the people there, misses the point. What is the OP doing -- what am I doing -- to ease the suffering there?

May I suggest that because ALL of Eastern Africa is in the midst of a serious drought; because fathers are so desparate that they are leading their families on death marches into the desert to end their suffering; you and I can offer some REAL assistance at the following site:


http://www.childfund.org/Drought-Grips- ... of-Africa/


ChildFund is not currently engaged in Somalia, due to the dangers there. However, CARE is engaged:

https://my.care.org/site/Donation2?df_id=9600&9600.donation=landing&s_src=redppcacdadaab9600&s_subsrc=dadaabsomaligen9600&utm_source=adcenter&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=aid%20in%20somalia&utm_content=helpsomalirefugeesin&utm_campaign=9600somaliagen

As you may be aware, the U.N. has discovered that aid to Somalia is often diverted:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44156715

Thank you for providing me a kick in the pants to do this research. I vouch for ChildFund as a very satisfying experience. (And I apologize if there's a better way to insert links...)
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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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keithb wrote:So, priesthood holders: do you accept my challenge? Will you fly to Africa and begin helping the sick and starving Africans using your priesthood power?


Don't pick on the lay ministry; they're just poor working stiffs. I'd settle for the Twelve making a trip and using the divine apostleship to call down manna, split loaves and fishes, beat some quail from the bushes, have water spring up from rocks.

Of course, we all know that they will do little else than send over a few bags of rice and pray that the Somalian people may be comforted in this great time of need, and that those Somalians that couldn't come to church this week will make it next week.

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Re: Question for all Believers: Healing/Food Creation Africa?

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LDSToronto wrote:
keithb wrote:So, priesthood holders: do you accept my challenge? Will you fly to Africa and begin helping the sick and starving Africans using your priesthood power?


Don't pick on the lay ministry; they're just poor working stiffs. I'd settle for the Twelve making a trip and using the divine apostleship to call down manna, split loaves and fishes, beat some quail from the bushes, have water spring up from rocks.


They're too busy building estates, and malls, and worrying about security to generate the kind of faith needed to bring manna from heaven, or feed starving people with bread and fish.

Of course, we all know that they will do little else than send over a few bags of rice and pray that the Somalian people may be comforted in this great time of need, and that those Somalians that couldn't come to church this week will make it next week.

H.


Did we even send a few bags of rice?
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