When did miracles stop happening?

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Re: When did miracles stop happening?

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jon wrote:
Where'd they go?
Why did miracles stop happening?
Why did they only happen in Biblical times?

Every true saint has real Biblical miracles happen throughout their life.
I am not talking about finding you car keys easily.

The reason you do not hear of great miracles today is because there are so few real saints who have been visited of God and truly wrought upon and cleansed by the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. Which is of itself a major miracle of biblical proportions.

I could enumerate but that will only add to Nightlion envy which only translates into Nightlion hate.
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Alot of them stopped happening when science provided reasons for certain things.

"where do rainbows come from?". Noah story.....then we find out about light passing through water particles at certain angles to the observer...

Same thing with the salt-formations in Israel...a few thousand years ago, the story of soddom and gomorrah...

I have a similar and related question to the OP.

At what point did a supposed visit from Jesus become "too sacred" to talk about? Joseph Smith didn't hide his supposed vision...and the original apostles travelled around the Mediterranean claiming they saw their master visit them after he died.

Everyone in the "scriptures" who was supposedly visited by Jesus ran around like crazy telling everyone.

But nowadays, church leaders let rumors fly that Jesus visits them, and when asked, they say it's too sacred to talk about.

I personally don't believe in "miracles".

In the story, doubting Thomas is my hero...and he was even rewarded for it. He was the only one using his head....and he wasn't denied anything.

Miracles don't happen anymore because www.snopes.com was invented to prevent lies from spreading...
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Lost Mystic wrote:a lot of them stopped happening when science provided reasons for certain things.

"where do rainbows come from?". Noah story.....then we find out about light passing through water particles at certain angles to the observer...



Let's consider the rainbow shall we. It did not manifest before the flood because the waters above the firmament blocked out direct sunlight upon the earth. After all that vapor rained down the clear blue sky allowed for the sunlight to show the spectrum of light through the cloud as it were. In the Book of Revelation the Lord states that his presence has a rainbow manifested there. So the Lord told Noah that the bow in the clouds is identified as "HIS". Meaning that the rainbow is a manifestation of the presence and power of God.

A rainbow is formed by the baptism of water and fire, thusly manifesting the power and presence of God. A very meaningful and masterful work of art multiplied all around the world hundreds of times a day.

The gospel of Jesus Christ also utilizes a baptism of water and of fire which is the Holy Ghost. This also manifests the power and presence of the Father. Only when done precisely right shall one know the Lord when visited of God and baptized according to the promise of the Father in the name of Jesus Christ where one is born of God and becomes his son or his daughter.

So do you still think science has fully explained away the miracle of the rainbow? Well do ya?
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So do you still think science has fully explained away the miracle of the rainbow? Well do ya?


Yes.

But it doesn't make it any less beautiful...
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Nightlion wrote:
Lost Mystic wrote:a lot of them stopped happening when science provided reasons for certain things.

"where do rainbows come from?". Noah story.....then we find out about light passing through water particles at certain angles to the observer...



Let's consider the rainbow shall we. It did not manifest before the flood because the waters above the firmament blocked out direct sunlight upon the earth. After all that vapor rained down the clear blue sky allowed for the sunlight to show the spectrum of light through the cloud as it were. In the Book of Revelation the Lord states that his presence has a rainbow manifested there. So the Lord told Noah that the bow in the clouds is identified as "HIS". Meaning that the rainbow is a manifestation of the presence and power of God.

A rainbow is formed by the baptism of water and fire, thusly manifesting the power and presence of God. A very meaningful and masterful work of art multiplied all around the world hundreds of times a day.

The gospel of Jesus Christ also utilizes a baptism of water and of fire which is the Holy Ghost. This also manifests the power and presence of the Father. Only when done precisely right shall one know the Lord when visited of God and baptized according to the promise of the Father in the name of Jesus Christ where one is born of God and becomes his son or his daughter.

So do you still think science has fully explained away the miracle of the rainbow? Well do ya?



Sorry to burst your bubble, but there's not such thing as a firmament.
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More recently than Biblical times, we have the miracle of the seagulls and the miracle of the transfiguration of Brigham Young into the visage of Joseph Smith during the succession crisis.

Too bad both of those miracles have been debunked.

I've heard it said that angels appeared during some of the early temple dedications, but, if I recall correctly, there's little actual contemporary support for it. Most miracles seems to be embellishments of stories of ordinary events.

ETA: Oh, and people are still seeing Jesus' image on toast, in tree trunks, and even on dog's asses, to this day!
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Re: When did miracles stop happening?

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jon wrote:.....Where'd they go?
nowhere
Why did miracles stop happening?
they did not
Why did they only happen in Biblical times?
they happened before Biblical times and after

interesting thing about miracles....by definition they are "unbelievable"!
not believing in miracles is just another link in the chain that hold atheists at the bottom of the sea....with crabs
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Re: When did miracles stop happening?

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Buffalo wrote:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there's not such thing as a firmament.


No need to be sorry, I am sorry,

fir·ma·ment
   /ˈfɜrməmənt/ Show Spelled[fur-muh-muhnt] Show IPA
noun
the vault of heaven; sky.
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Re: When did miracles stop happening?

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subgenius wrote:
Buffalo wrote:.... No one has ever encountered an actual miracle. Only old stories of miracles.

blah blah blah....look at my degenerative discourse posing as meaningful.....blah blah blah.....look t me, I've got it all figured out, and it means you are wrong and i am right.....blah blah blah.......I'm such a productive contributor, give me a cookie.......blah blah blah


And with that subgenius takes another steamy dump in another thread.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: When did miracles stop happening?

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Nightlion wrote:
Buffalo wrote:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there's not such thing as a firmament.


No need to be sorry, I am sorry,

fir·ma·ment
   /ˈfɜrməmənt/ Show Spelled[fur-muh-muhnt] Show IPA
noun
the vault of heaven; sky.


Have you ever bought one of those snow globes, with the plastic or glass dome over top the flat base? That's what the firmament was supposed to be. Literally.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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