Blacks as slaves in heaven?

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Re: Blacks as slaves in heaven?

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bcspace wrote:

Non doctrinal venue/publication by definition.


I have to admit that I'm a little confused about the doctrinal/ non-doctrinal aspect of things.

Statements made by accredited LDS members (that are published) I guess are not all "doctinal". The fact that they are published makes me wonder if that is not current Mormon thought (at the time when published), whether officially sanctioned or not.

As in another thread, who really does speak for the Mormons? No one seems to want to take up that banner.

I think that this is telling.
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There will not be any black slaves in heaven. If the curse that was placed on them is a skin color, it will be removed in the hereafter.
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Fence Sitter wrote:There will not be any black slaves in heaven. If the curse that was placed on them is a skin color, it will be removed in the hereafter.


:)! I guess it will be pink or blue slaves doing the housework and scrubbing the toilets. Regardless of the tasks, I'm sure they will be happy doing the chores in a more delightsome color.
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Quasimodo wrote:
bcspace wrote:

Non doctrinal venue/publication by definition.




If you are confused then don't ask bcspace. He avoids simple questions regarding the flaws in his ideas about doctrine, not to mention evolution and priesthood ban.
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Re: Blacks as slaves in heaven?

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Quasimodo wrote: I'm sure they will be happy doing the chores in a more delightsome color.


Perhaps as sister-wives, since I believe most of us Mormon men have a thing for blue skinned Andorian girls.
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Non doctrinal venue/publication by definition.

I have to admit that I'm a little confused about the doctrinal/ non-doctrinal aspect of things.

Statements made by accredited LDS members (that are published) I guess are not all "doctinal". The fact that they are published makes me wonder if that is not current Mormon thought (at the time when published), whether officially sanctioned or not.


Official publication by the Church is what qualifies. A speech at BYU does not qualify.

As in another thread, who really does speak for the Mormons? No one seems to want to take up that banner.


I already have. The Church speaks for itself like any organization.

If you are confused then don't ask bcspace. He avoids simple questions regarding the flaws in his ideas about doctrine, not to mention evolution and priesthood ban.


People bring their confusion with them; sometime willfully as in your case.. The Church has made it simple. If it's published by the Church, it's doctrine.
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I guess it will be pink or blue slaves doing the housework and scrubbing the toilets. Regardless of the tasks, I'm sure they will be happy doing the chores in a more delightsome color.


I'll bet in heaven people scrub their own toilets.
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Re: Blacks as slaves in heaven?

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bcspace wrote:
I guess it will be pink or blue slaves doing the housework and scrubbing the toilets. Regardless of the tasks, I'm sure they will be happy doing the chores in a more delightsome color.


I'll bet in heaven people scrub their own toilets.


Not according to Mark E. Peterson. I know, "not doctrinal", but he was an Apostle. I think it would be great if you were the one making Mormon doctrine. Sadly, I don't think this is the case.
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Not according to Mark E. Peterson. I know, "not doctrinal", but he was an Apostle. I think it would be great if you were the one making Mormon doctrine. Sadly, I don't think this is the case.


It is true I don't make LDS doctrine (pending publication of my evolution hypothesis in the Ensign), I merely communicate what the Church says about it. It is also true, according to the Church itself that MEP's speech at BYU is not doctrine:

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Re: Blacks as slaves in heaven?

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bcspace wrote:
It is true I don't make LDS doctrine (pending publication of my evolution hypothesis in the Ensign)



I think most people here would applaud you if you manage to achieve this. I, for one, would read it with interest. And then come here and ask about it!

Let us know if you get published before Schryver!
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