"Doctor has Life after Death Experience..."

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gdemetz wrote:Drifting, giving one specific instructions is one thing, and giving them a revelation which they perhaps were not entitled to is another.


Now you are reinterpreting what she said to try and make it fit with what you want to believe.

Dr Mary Neal - the example you used in the OP; stated that she met with and conversed with Jesus, whom she said gave her instructions.

If we assume for a moment that she actually did meet with Jesus (I think you believe she did based on you bringing the subject up in the OP) you have to consider that He didn't tell her to join the Mormon Church. You also have to consider that, amongst all the worthy Priesthood holders in the Church, Jesus chose a non Mormon, non Priesthood holding woman, to visit with and to directly, face to face, commune with and instruct.

If it happened the way she said it happened, it makes the Mormon Church a fraud.
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I am NOT trying to interpret what she said. I am merely speculating why Christ may not have told here to become a Mormon.
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gdemetz wrote:I am NOT trying to interpret what she said. I am merely speculating why Christ may not have told here to become a Mormon.


Actually there are some people who actually spend several hours a day praying. There are many others who put forth an effort to study they dreams for guidance. It seems very few of them are told to join the LDS church either.
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gdemetz wrote:I am NOT trying to interpret what she said. I am merely speculating why Christ may not have told here to become a Mormon.


1. Because it's not true
2. Because it is true but Jesus wanted to punish her for soe reason by not having access to the blessings of leaning the Chapel

Which do you think?

It's funny, but the people who claim to have met Jesus or God, did so when they weren't worthy Mormons (including Joseph Smith). What does that tell us.....?
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Drifting wrote:It's funny, but the people who claim to have met Jesus or God, did so when they weren't worthy Mormons (including Joseph Smith). What does that tell us.....?


That's not quite true. Every so often a worthy Mormon will claim to see someone or other, but when he makes the claim he becomes excommunicated.
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NDE's are such bull, take enough shrooms and you can die and go visit the cosmic oneness and blah blah blah what ever.
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Opinions and precepts of men is what I keep seeing here!
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gdemetz wrote:Opinions and precepts of men is what I keep seeing here!


Why doesn't the Church want members to write in to the Ensign etc with stories of their near death experiences in which they meet Jesus, God, etc. ?

Why does Jesus appear to non Church members who, by the terms of Mormonism, aren't worthy to lay their eyes upon Him?

Please answer these questions not with your opinion or man's perception. Tell us what the living Prophets and Apostles say on the matter...
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Drifting, you are the one who quoted some guidelines about the churches publications already, and I already commented on that.

Drifting, I don't know of any prophet who has commented on someone being unworthy to see Christ when they are in spirit form.
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gdemetz wrote:Drifting, you are the one who quoted some guidelines about the churches publications already, and I already commented on that.

Drifting, I don't know of any prophet who has commented on someone being unworthy to see Christ when they are in spirit form.



Oh I think section 28 of the D&C makes it clear as to who and who alone is entitled to receive revelations etc.

 2 But, behold, verily, verily, I say unto thee, no one shall be appointed to receive commandments and revelations in this church excepting my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., for he receiveth them even as Moses.


This was on the back of Hyrum Smith claiming to have 'seen' things in visions and through stones etc.

I'm guessing that upon hearing about this ladies communion with Jesus that they (Monson et al) were on the phone to her to find out what He said...No? How odd...
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