No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

[_Tobin]

Four classifications here
1 Cor 15:

39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds

Just four or more here

41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

Again, you aren't helping your case. Clearly there are multiple categories. Is that not clear from those verses? So far I fail to see how this proves that there are not multiple degress of Glory or anything along the lines of what this thread is about.

[_Mittens]

The context is Mortal versus imortal bodies not heavens

[_Albion]

Absolutely right. It is a text on the nature of the resurrected body over the mortal body clear and simple. No mention whatsoever of heaven, be it one or three. Paul is demonstrating the different glory of the sun from the moon to the stars, animal flesh from human and such , as a demonstration of how the resurrected body will be different from the earthly body. Context...context and yet more context pure and simple. The context is resurrection absolutely not heaven or heavens. Mormons have no credibility on this text for their beliefs whatsoever.

[_Tobin]

I fail to see your point. You state definitively that Paul is only talking about resurrected bodies here with multiple degrees of Glory. That doesn't help you either. You STILL have multiple degrees of Glory whether we are talking about heaven or resurrected bodies.

[_Mittens]

I fail to see your point. You state definitively that Paul is only talking about resurrected bodies here with multiple degrees of Glory. That doesn't help you either. You STILL have multiple degrees of Glory whether we are talking about heaven or resurrected bodies.

Yes mortal body no Glory

Immortal body all the Glory

[_subgenius]

The context is Mortal versus imortal bodies not heavens

prove it
and then prove that it is still not referencing the obvious degrees of glory it is referencing

[_Tobin]

I fail to see your point. You state definitively that Paul is only talking about resurrected bodies here with multiple degrees of Glory. That doesn't help you either. You STILL have multiple degrees of Glory whether we are talking about heaven or resurrected bodies.

Yes mortal body no Glory

Immortal body all the Glory

So, that is your summary of those verses? If that is all Paul was saying, why didn't he just say that? Why go into a discussion of multiple degrees of Glory at all? Your exegesis and context seem not to be helping you in the slightest.

[_Albion]

But of course, Paul isn't talking about multiple degrees of glory but the difference between the mortal body and the resurrected body. The resurrected body will be different from the mortal body in the same way that the sun is different from the moon and in the same way that even stars have a difference of glory or brilliance and are different from both the sun and the moon. Any way you look at it you cannot escape subject, resurrection, and the context in which Paul uses familiar things...sun, moon and stars to describe how that resurrected body will be different from the mortal body just as they are different from each other. Clearly a case of Smith twisting scripture to support his claims. The whole chapter is on resurrection and not heaven.

J.B.Phillips in his paraphrase translation to modern English puts it this way: "But perhaps someone will ask, 'How is the resurrection achieved? With what sort of body do the dead arrive?' Now that is talking without using your minds. In your own experience you know that a seed does not germinate without "dying" itself. When you sow a seed you do not sow the "body" that will eventually be produced, but bare grain, of wheat, for example, or one of the other seeds. God gives the see a "body" according to his laws...a different "body" to each kind of seed.
Then again, even in this world, all flesh is not identical. The flesh of human beings, animals, fish and birds is different in each case. There are bodies which exist in this world, and bodies which exist in the heavens. These bodies are not. as it were, in competition: the splendor of an earthly body is quite a different thing from the splendor of a heavenly body. The sun, the moon and the stars all have their own particular splendor, while among the stars themselves there are different kinds of splendor.

There are illustrations here of the raising of the dead. The body is "sown" in dishonor: it is raised in splendor. It is sown in weakness: it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. As there is a natural body so will there be a spiritual body." J.B. Phillips, Letters to Young Churches.

[_Mittens]

Looks like you need baby type milk translation to understate this passage Tobin

1 Cor 15
35 But someone may ask, “How will the dead be brought back to life again? What kind of bodies will they have?”
36 What a foolish question! You will find the answer in your own garden! When you put a seed into the ground it doesn’t grow into a plant unless it “dies” first.
37 And when the green shoot comes up out of the seed, it is very different from the seed you first planted. For all you put into the ground is a dry little seed of wheat or whatever it is you are planting,
38 then God gives it a beautiful new body—just the kind he wants it to have; a different kind of plant grows from each kind of seed.
39 And just as there are different kinds of seeds and plants, so also there are different kinds of flesh. Humans, animals, fish, and birds are all different.
40 The angels in heaven have bodies far different from ours, and the beauty and the glory of their bodies is different from the beauty and the glory of ours.
41 The sun has one kind of glory while the moon and stars have another kind. And the stars differ from each other in their beauty and brightness.
42 In the same way, our earthly bodies which die and decay are different from the bodies we shall have when we come back to life again, for they will never die.
43The bodies we have now embarrass us, for they become sick and die; but they will be full of glory when we come back to life again. Yes, they are weak, dying bodies now, but when we live again they will be full of strength.
44 They are just human bodies at death, but when they come back to life they will be superhuman bodies. For just as there are natural, human bodies, there are also supernatural, spiritual bodies.
45 The Scriptures tell us that the first man, Adam, was given a natural, human body but Christ is more£ than that, for he was life-giving Spirit.
46 First, then, we have these human bodies, and later on God gives us spiritual, heavenly bodies.

[_Tobin]

Looks like you need baby type milk translation to understate this passage Tobin

Again, you haven't addressed what I'm talking about. I'm detecting a pattern here Mittens. You seem to be unable to answer a direct question. Why is Paul talking about degrees of glory at all here if that is not important? As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter to me whether Paul is referring to heaven or the resurrection. That is not what I'm talking about. Albion is making the same mistake as well.