Crosses on LDS temple

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No problem, mktavish.

In a similar vein, a local non-denominational chapel, where Catholic Mass is said daily, has a victorious Jesus with hands outstretched, behind the altar. The only crucifix to be seen is a tiny one on the altar. It is difficult to identify with the suffering Jesus, who understands our pains, in such an environment. And the population that that chapel serves would profit from that perspective. It is probably Mormon "offense" which gave rise to such a compromise, which offends Catholics. Even the stations of the Cross are in tiny closed cabinets, which are opened in preparation for Mass.

There isn't even a a large crucifix which could be moved to behind the altar also in preparation for Mass.

What makes Catholics think we have to bend over backwards in order to avoid offending LDS? (Rhetorical question)

Of course we are cannibals. Get over it! I take Jesus into my body, and am strengthened to become a member of the body of Christ on earth.

Grr!

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Oh I get it ... the Mormon aversion to the cross, is because they are vampires???

Did anybody notice the side advertisement if you follow that second link for temple in Rome?

It said " We are adopted by god not born to a heavenly father and mother"

So would that mean we are not created by god? Hmmm it seems the so called "christians" are changeing their toon also.

notice how we are children by adoption only not literal children of God


• Ephesians 1:5
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

• Galatians 4:5
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

• Romans 8:15
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

• Romans 8:23
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

• Romans 9:4
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

More "Christian" Bible misrepresentation......

Yes, the scriptures teach that we are "adopted" children of the Father.... FYI, in SPIRIT AND FLESH.
Christ is the only one to be "Only Begotten OF the Father".
We are still God's "spiritual" Children.... And through Christ's resurrection and atonement we becometh son's and daughters of the Most High.

Sure, we know we will be adopted.... Of course. Christ is the ONLY SON of the Father to be BORN OF HIS FLESH!!!
Guess what "only begotten son" means???

Hello, it take 2 DNA strands to create a child. One was Mary's and the other was the Fathers, and it occurred through the administration of the Holy Ghost AND the Father's Power, just as the Bible states. FYI, that's not "sex". So don't go trying to pervert early LDS leaders words when they were debunking the "Christian" teaching that Christ was born of the Holy Ghost and not the Father and not the Son of the Father.

Science can get someone pregnant without sex..... Why can't God through the Holy Ghost do so with Mary begetting the Christ??? Hey, and guess what, she was a Virgin and had been with no man. Hello..... HOLY GHOST!!!

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Paganism on the temple

http://www.mormonoutreach.org/pagan_and ... ymbols.php

Hey Ms/Mr bigotry..... Why don't you learn some TRUTH for a change???

http://en.fairmormon.org/Mormonism_and_ ... DS_Temples

http://en.fairmormon.org/Mormonism_and_ ... voo_Temple

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More "Christian" Bible misrepresentation......

Yes, the scriptures teach that we are "adopted" children of the Father.... FYI, in SPIRIT AND FLESH.
Christ is the only one to be "Only Begotten OF the Father".
We are still God's "spiritual" Children.... And through Christ's resurrection and atonement we becometh son's and daughters of the Most High.

Sure, we know we will be adopted.... Of course. Christ is the ONLY SON of the Father to be BORN OF HIS FLESH!!!
Guess what "only begotten son" means???

Hello, it take 2 DNA strands to create a child. One was Mary's and the other was the Fathers, and it occurred through the administration of the Holy Ghost AND the Father's Power, just as the Bible states. FYI, that's not "sex". So don't go trying to pervert early LDS leaders words when they were debunking the "Christian" teaching that Christ was born of the Holy Ghost and not the Father and not the Son of the Father.

Science can get someone pregnant without sex..... Why can't God through the Holy Ghost do so with Mary begetting the Christ??? Hey, and guess what, she was a Virgin and had been with no man. Hello..... HOLY GHOST!!!

How did God extract his own semen? - He didn't speed up his factory did he???
There you have it... No Sex. - It was Magic, or Masturbation and a Holy turkey baster.

Satan reigns over the earth. When Adam and Eve sinned, they became the children of satan. One must be redeemed/saved in order to become a child of God. The Moromon concept seems to be that God begat spirit babies who would be in fact His children; however, that would also make them Gods and perfect as their Father. This is not the case. Man is a created being who has a body, soul and spirit (God breathed -- not begotten). Man was created perfect but had the ability to choose to become evil. God cannot become evil. When Adam and Eve choose evil, they became like satan ---- corrupted and satan's ward. The only way man can get back to God is through adoption by way of the Redeemer by placing their faith in His power ---- not trying to rely on one's own (which is why Adam and Eve sinned in the 1st place ------- See Genesis (EAT THIS and you will BECOME like God).

Good point nipples, But you haven't addressed the fact that God gave them a commandment before they had the ability to know it was evil not to obey, and all that has been discussed on another thread -this is about crosses and temples.

In my old ward there is a very subtle pattern in the woodwork of the pulpit, -+T+- it looks like it has been designed to look like 3 crosses.

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How did God extract his own semen? - He didn't speed up his factory did he???
There you have it... No Sex. - It was Magic, or Masturbation and a Holy turkey baster.

And there you have it...... The perverted mock and profain the sacred to nourish their bigotry.

God doesn't have "semen" slimball.... He is spirit and matter perfected.
Resurrected bodies don't have BLOOD!!!

Scientifically speaking, spirit and matter is Energy and Matter combined to the most minute particals of essence.
DNA is not seen by the naked eye, yet it exists.

The Holy Ghost is spirit.... It's able to enter into man, and yet spirit still has form.

Don't blame us for your Godlessness and perversion....

Further, the Bible is clear..... Yet the "Christians" ignore what the words actually say and mean.

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In my old ward there is a very subtle pattern in the woodwork of the pulpit, -+T+- it looks like it has been designed to look like 3 crosses.

You mean like this?



The "Triple Tau" is an important Masonic symbol, it (like Mormonism) has nothing to do with Christianity.

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And there you have it...... The perverted mock and profain the sacred to nourish their bigotry.
God doesn't have "semen" slimball.... He is spirit and matter perfected.
Resurrected bodies don't have BLOOD!!!
Scientifically speaking, spirit and matter is Energy and Matter combined to the most minute particals of essence.
DNA is not seen by the naked eye, yet it exists.
The Holy Ghost is spirit.... It's able to enter into man, and yet spirit still has form.
Don't blame us for your Godlessness and perversion....
Further, the Bible is clear..... Yet the "Christians" ignore what the words actually say and mean.

I am interested in where you get your doctrine from... Or are you making it up because you don't actually know?
Please consider the following questions...

What makes God a 'Man' ?
What is the purpose of genitalia in the eternities?
What is the use of Gods testicles if he created spirit children from intelligence's gathered, Molded Adam from clay and Jesus from DNA?
I heard that there was a Mormon theory that never made it to doctrine, that claimed anyone who doesn't make it to Godhood becomes gender-less. (The 'Smooth' Doctrine)

Don't hide your lack of knowledge by misdirection hiding behind the its to sacred excuse...
I may be making light of your theories but there is danger, where people hide away from answering questions and get angry when asked it normally means they are...

1 Don't know.
2 Hiding something.
3 Are afraid their abuser will find out and punish them.

Regards
Slimeball

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http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/kyiv/gallery/download.php?id=6439 Temple in Kyiev

http://discoveringgrace.wordpress.com/2 ... on-temple/ Rome Temple with Cross

President Hinckley said to him: “‘I do not wish to give offense to any of my Christian colleagues who use the cross on the steeples of their cathedrals and at the altars of their chapels, who wear it on their vestments, and imprint it on their books and other literature. But for us, the cross is the symbol of the dying Christ, while our message is a declaration of the Living Christ.’” (“The Symbol of Christ,” New Era, Apr. 1990, 4.)

Joseph Fielding Smith – “To many, like the writer, such a custom is repugnant and contrary to the true worship of our Redeemer. Why should we bow down before a cross or use it as a symbol? Because our Savior died on the cross, the wearing of crosses is to most Latter-day Saints in very poor taste and inconsistent to our worship.” (Answers to Gospel Questions 4:17;)

ummm...didn't see a cross on either of those buildings...especially an intentional crucifix.....so Hinckley/JFS quote is still consistent.
and yes, it would be liking meeting Jackie Kennedy and wearing a little sniper-rifle pin on one's lapel.

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it would be liking meeting Jackie Kennedy and wearing a little sniper-rifle pin on one's lapel.

So your comparing JFK to Jesus?

So it's not just the 'Beetles', 'Oasis' and 'Robbie Williams' Who think they are bigger than Jesus.