Bond James Bond wrote:Nope. Correctly punctuate much?

Bond James Bond wrote:Nope. Correctly punctuate much?
Drifting wrote:PREDESTINATION
See Foreordination.
*All quotes courtesy of LDS.org*
subgenius wrote:when you quoted this one you should have actually read it.
Still not Predestination...perhaps you should read Calvin then get back to us.
and still waiting for your clarification on what "plan" you are associating with the above mentioned election.......
subgenius wrote:Photo that explains that Bond is the bad guy because I can't capitalize the first letter of a sentence ever even though I was taught to by teacher in second grade.Bond James Bond wrote:Nope. Correctly punctuate much?
Bond James Bond wrote:Fixed.
Bond James Bond wrote:subgenius wrote:Photo that explains that Bond is the bad guy because I can't capitalize the first letter of a sentence ever even though I was taught to by teacher in second grade.
Fixed.
Drifting wrote:Checked my spell checker and PREDESTINATION is spelt PREDESTINATION and LDS.org obviously (see the quote) equates PREDESTINATION with FOREORDINATION which is doctrine.
subgenius wrote:you assume, as usual, that it is an "equation" when it is only a reference, especially due to the prevalience of Calvin's teachings...however, "foreordination" does not read at all like predestination, especially as we are discussing it here.
I agree, that LDS site is helpful...
For example:
"Yet something made him very bold in his declarations against the false doctrines pertaining to infant baptism, self-appointed priesthood, predestination, and other erroneous teachings of the day."
"First let us examine a few myths the book refutes or denies. The Book of Mormon refutes the doctrine of predestination." - Elder Nelson 1993
The combined doctrine of God’s foreordination is one of the doctrinal roads “least traveled by.” Yet it clearly underlines how very long and how perfectly God has loved us and known us with our individual needs and capacities. Isolated from other doctrines, or mishandled, these truths can stoke the fires of fatalism, impact adversely upon agency, cause us to focus on status rather than service, and carry us over into predestination. President Joseph Fielding Smith once warned
This erroneous line of reasoning continues.....that one’s salvation is predestined according to God’s good pleasure, that predestination overrides personal agency, and that grace supersedes the need for good works and participation in essential ordinances. Still another misconception..." - Elder Condie 1996
For more than 1,500 years Christians have tried to mitigate or get rid of the bitter doctrine of predestination, but they have never been able to let it go, having nothing to put in its place. In particular, Augustine and his successors found the doctrine of infant damnation painful—no atonement for unbaptized babies stained by the original sin. But what could they do? The alternative to predestination is premortal existence - Elder Nibley 1990
(emphasis mine)
once again your assumption has been exposed for what it really is and for its motivation.
(and that was my Murray to your Djokovic)
Drifting wrote:CFR that subby went to grade school.
Drifting wrote:Sorry, couldn't resist...