Anti-Mormon?

[_Drifting]

So, for you, the desire to tell the truth is expressed by "discrimination, persecution, hostility or prejudice".....got it!

No, you're confusing what I said with what the Church does/did...

Discrimination - see 'Blacks and the Priesthood' or 'Women and the Priesthood' or 'Gays and the Priesthood'.

Persecution - see 'Mountain Meadows' or 'Missionary Work (the door to door persecution of non members)' or 'September Six'.

Hostility - see 'DCP' or 'Pahoran' or 'FAIR' or 'Sic et Non' or 'William Schryver' or 'Gospel Doctrine Class where an individual asks an awkward question' or 'LDS Apologetics'.

Prejudice - see 'One True Church' or 'Abominable Church' or 'History of the Church - Joseph Smith Testimony' or some of the above.

For me, the desire to tell the truth is expressed by asking about the truth...

[_subgenius]

Which is?

Fear. Basically.

are you saying that anti-mormons are mostly afraid of something and thus their behavior?
is there a common source for this fear? exactly what are they afraid of?

[_subgenius]

So, for you, the desire to tell the truth is expressed by "discrimination, persecution, hostility or prejudice".....got it!

This has the brilliant strategic insight of debate wins such as asking "when did you stop beating your wife?".

Your opening post presented two different versions of what anti-mormon means. One definition is narrowly focused upon negative versions. The other definition is broad enough to include both positive and negative versions. This allows a clever trick where somebody agrees to be part of the broad version because they see something positive then you get to switch categories and accuse them with the negative version.

i believe i was fairly straightforward with the "wikipedia" definition as being the basis of the discussion. If you would like to offer a definition that suits you better then feel free to start another thread and your own wikipedia. Just because you do not like the wikipedia definition does not render it inaccurate...as your post is passively confirming.

however, i do appreciate your conspiracy theory about a "clever trick" though it is wildly speculative, incorrect, and lacking "brilliance", "strategy", and "insight".

If this is still too complicated a simpler observation can be made.

There are people who say things critical of the LDS church who are respectably interested in the truth. There are other people who say critical things who are malignant fanatics, out of touch with the truth. These two are not the same.

sure they are the same...they are both critical and their fundamental motivations are likely the same - their excuses may differ, but as critics - they are the same.
Being "interested in the truth" is hardly honest justification for being critical, there is a reason for that interest and why that interest is specific to the church - "interested in the truth" is not some sort of general hobby with the church being just as good as any other quarry.
Even then, having that interest is one thing, but being motivated to "say things critical" is another...it is the latter that speaks to the foundation of my inquiry in the OP.

[_just me]

Fear. Basically.

are you saying that anti-mormons are mostly afraid of something and thus their behavior?
is there a common source for this fear? exactly what are they afraid of?

When someone discriminates against a person based on their race, religion, sex, sexual orientation or handicap it is because that person has a lack of knowledge or fear that is driving their discrimination.

Why does the church discriminate against women and gays? Fear.
Why have some (and still today) discriminated against Jews and Muslims? Fear.
Why did MMM happen? Fear.
Why did Joseph Smith destroy that printing press? Fear.
Why do people with disabilities have a harder time getting jobs than other people? Ignorance.

I personally do not know anyone today who discriminates against Mormons. If you could give me an example that would be fantastic.

Being a critic of the church and it's beliefs is not the same as discriminating against the members of the LDS church. FYI

[_Themis]

Being a critic of the church and it's beliefs is not the same as discriminating against the members of the LDS church. FYI

Subby does not appear interested in the truth, only trying to call everyone who disagrees with the LDS church's truth claims an anti. I doubt he would see it this way for people who have left other groups like Scientology or FLDS. Should they have to be quiet about things they see wrong with the groups they left?

[_RockSlider]

What motivates a person to actively be Anti-Mormon?

What motivates a young person, or older couple to go on missions, being actively pro-mormon?

(i.e. a sense of duty to share, what one perceives as, the truth)

[_RockSlider]

So, for you, the desire to tell the truth is expressed by "discrimination, persecution, hostility or prejudice".....got it!

as perceived by a pro-mormon (and per this narrow definition of anti), I suppose so. Automatically intended/delivered in that manner ... no.

[_subgenius]

What motivates a person to actively be Anti-Mormon?

What motivates a young person, or older couple to go on missions, being actively pro-mormon?

(i.e. a sense of duty to share, what one perceives as, the truth)

So, as was noted in the OP:
The discrimination, persecution, hostility or prejudice directed at members of the Latter Day Saint movement is from "a sense of duty to share, what one perceives as, the truth"......Got It!

(interesting, usually a more noble behavior is expressed from that sort of "sense"......who would have guessed?)

[_subgenius]

So, for you, the desire to tell the truth is expressed by "discrimination, persecution, hostility or prejudice".....got it!

as perceived by a pro-mormon (and per this narrow definition of anti), I suppose so. Automatically intended/delivered in that manner ... no.

if, apparently, the perception of the pro-mormon is subjective - then whatever is the intention of the anti-mormon if indeed it is is different? (i am inclined to consider that, in this case, the intention and perception are synonymous)

[_RockSlider]

Sub,

Let's take some of the evangelist that show up at the Manti Mormon Pageant. I assume you would consider them anti-mormon. And yet I've watched videos on their preparations for those types of activities that show they believe they are on a mission of their own, one of love and compassion to "save" their Mormon brothers and sisters from what the evangelist perceive as a great evil and condemner of the Mormon souls.

Much like the intent of Mormon Missionaries, to bring conversion of those they interact with from their worldview into the joy of the Mormon Gospel.

In this example, it is the Mormons that feel they are being discriminated, persecuted, under attack and being abused, when the original intent is just the opposite, one of love and a desire for the betterment of the individual - as perceived by the evangelist.

Mormons sure do seem to get all caught up in the need for feeling persecuted all the time. It does get old. And yet you are crying about the exact same thing that your missionaries inflict on others ... door to door, day in and day out.