bomgeography wrote:They are confirmed Hopewell artifacts. The North American Hopewell civilization, timeline, artifacts, dna etc match up with the Book of Mormon.
Does not. The dna evideo enters the population 10k years too early. The Hopewell culture lacks currency, literacy, horses, chariots, metal swords, etc etc etc. You are trying to pound a square peg into a round hole.
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bomgeography wrote:They are confirmed Hopewell artifacts. The North American Hopewell civilization, timeline, artifacts, dna etc match up with the Book of Mormon.
Brant Gardner wrote:... There is zero archaeological evidence for the Heartland hypothesis. No matter what might be done to make the geography look possible, all available information about the Hopewell tell us that they cannot have been Nephites. ...
3) While archaeology does support some agriculture, there wasn't sufficient agriculture to support very large populations. Therefore, we see smaller populations than would fit any of the Book of Mormon descriptions about 400 years in to their history.
4) There is no evidence for the kind of complex political structures among the Hopewell that the Book of Mormon requires. ...
6) There is no evidence of large settlements, large populations, and particularly of large battles in the area around the NY hill we call Cumorah.
7) There is no evidence of a written language anywhere in North America (actually, only one region in the entire western hemisphere). Suggestions of written scripts are all late forgeries (and there are certainly some famous ones).
So, the only possible connection between the Book of Mormon and the Hopewell is that the basic dating for the beginnings and end of the Hopewell are similar. That coincidence certainly requires that we look at the Hopewell, but when we do--we find zero evidence from archaeology.
What's your intent, bomgeo? Barely three weeks ago, I posted the above and we went through all of this with you. Your research methodology is childish and uneducated. Why keep this up?
Brant Gardner has been wrong about a lot things. He believes meso America is where the Book of Mormon took place. He's a little bias. The Hopewell stretched from the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes. There trade was thousands of miles and were advanced in metal smithing and engineering and agriculture. A perfect fit
bomgeography wrote:Brant Gardner has been wrong about a lot things. He believes meso America is where the Book of Mormon took place. He's a little bias. The Hopewell stretched from the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes. There trade was thousands of miles and were advanced in metal smithing and engineering and agriculture. A perfect fit