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[_gdemetz]

Of course, I can see why you don't! As I stated before, these were marriages for the afterlife, not for this one, and consequently there was no intimacy in those. That's why there were no children. Emma's case was different. It was for this life as well as the hereafter, and that is why they produced children. It's that simple!

[_Drifting]

Of course, I can see why you don't! As I stated before, these were marriages for the afterlife, not for this one, and consequently there was no intimacy in those. That's why there were no children. Emma's case was different. It was for this life as well as the hereafter, and that is why they produced children. It's that simple!

Gd, what can you show me in support for your theory that these childless marriages (all except the one with Emma) were for the afterlife?

[_Drifting]

Can you quote for me the people closest to him that you reference so that I can see what it is they actually said?

Bump...

[_gdemetz]

I think if you check under "Kathryn Daynes," you may find more information about this. She has written about many types of marriages of that time including, but not limited to, civil marriages; for time only, eternal marriages; for time and eternity, marriages for only eternity; and not for this life and with no sexual activity, convenience only marriages; for the sake of having children, and child marriages; which may take effect when the children were older.

[_gdemetz]

There was one other type also, and it was marriage for time only by proxy?

[_Drifting]

I think if you check under "Kathryn Daynes," you may find more information about this. She has written about many types of marriages of that time including, but not limited to, civil marriages; for time only, eternal marriages; for time and eternity, marriages for only eternity; and not for this life and with no sexual activity, convenience only marriages; for the sake of having children, and child marriages; which may take effect when the children were older.

GD, let's put Kathryn to one side for a moment and examine what God himself has to say on the matter...

According to D&C 132 61-63 the following criteria is given for when plural marriage is acceptable to the Lord:
1. The consent of the previous wife must be sought.
2. The plural wives must be virgins.
3. The plural wives must be vowed to no one else.
4. A man's plural wives "are given unto him to multiply and replenish the earth".

I can see why you want to ignore God's words...

[_gdemetz]

I am going to have to leave soon, but I will try to give you a more complete answer later. However, you are not considering all the things which are written regarding this matter, even in that entire section. Also, you are applying a much too strict interpretation of the meaning of those verses. For example, I believe to the best of my memory that it states in those verses, that if a man espouse a virgin. I don't think that it states that if a woman is not a virgin, she is disqualified from this blessing. Also, you should read the instructions given to Emma as an example of what would happen if the woman would refuse the command.

[_gdemetz]

I think you are also misinterpreting what the vow (to the Lord) means. but we can discuss this all more later, friend. Take care!

[_Drifting]

I think you are also misinterpreting what the vow (to the Lord) means. but we can discuss this all more later, friend. Take care!

I am looking forward to you responding and referencing and quoting...

[_Themis]

According to the accounts I have seen, Joseph was sealed to Zina while she was six months pregnant with the child of her husband, but continued to live with her husband, and, in fact, had another child by him, and that there was no evidence of any sexual relationship with Joseph and her. After the death of Joseph, she was resealed to him and later married Brigham Young for this life. There have been claims by critics of Joseph Smith fathering children, but all the DNA evidence which has come in so far has proved those claims false.

It's interesting that we want to believe certain things that we tend to miss what is right in front of us. Zina had children from more then her first husband.