Is the Church really growing?

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_Themis
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Re: Is the Church really growing?

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gdemetz wrote:He is speaking of the "surviving manuscripts." They had to be hand copied. Also, if your check those sources thoroughly (and there are many more), to me the evidence of authenticity is overwhelming.


If yo want to assert things you have the responsibility to back them up. Stop being so dam lazy. You said it. You need to show the evidence specifically. Not give vague details of where we can find it and then expect us to have to read volumes of text to find out if what you claim is accurate. That is your job. Most people understand this, but you seem to not get so many things.
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gdemetz wrote:He is speaking of the "surviving manuscripts." They had to be hand copied. Also, if your check those sources thoroughly (and there are many more), to me the evidence of authenticity is overwhelming.



"Gentlemen, I will now show you this text. Forgive me for using a photocopy. It's not distrust. I don't want to subject the original to further wear."
"But Ingolf's copy wasn't the original," I said. "The parchment was the original."
"Casaubon, when originals no longer exist, the last copy is the original."
-- Foucault's Pendulum of Umberto Eco, Chapter 18
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Re: Is the Church really growing?

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NO!!! It's shrinking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PIWFht3 ... re=related

Oaks's Confirms apostasy(Before Official PR repealing the statement)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93XqR6IOcAw&feature=plcp

They haven't updated their lesson manuals either.
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Re: Is the Church really growing?

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Check out this one site then: "External evidence that the gospels are authentic." I wish I could read it to you and make it easier for you!
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gdemetz wrote:Check out this one site then: "External evidence that the gospels are authentic." I wish I could read it to you and make it easier for you!


Hi, can you just list the top three things from that source that you personally find most persuasive?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
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gdemetz wrote:Check out this one site then: "External evidence that the gospels are authentic." I wish I could read it to you and make it easier for you!


Hey troll. Provide links, and particularity express an argument instead of just asserting. Don't expect others to do your job for you.
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Re: Is the Church really growing?

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Are you retarded? Just put that exact quote I gave in the "web search" on your computer, and like magic it will show up on your screen!
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gdemetz wrote:Are you r*******? Just put that exact quote I gave in the "web search" on your computer, and like magic it will show up on your screen!


You've been played with long enough.
Time for the ignore button.
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“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
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Re: Is the Church really growing?

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Drifting wrote:
gdemetz wrote:Are you r*******? Just put that exact quote I gave in the "web search" on your computer, and like magic it will show up on your screen!


You've been played with long enough.
Tim for the ignore button.


Not a bad idea. How many times do you have to explain things to a lazy person about what each of our responsibilities are to do our own work in supporting what we assert. He wants to assert things and then expects everyone else to find the evidence that supports his claims. I don't think I have seen anyone so lazy before.

I bet he also doesn't know that search engines don't always give everyone the same result.
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Re: Is the Church really growing?

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Drifting wrote:
gdemetz wrote:Are you r*******? Just put that exact quote I gave in the "web search" on your computer, and like magic it will show up on your screen!


You've been played with long enough.
Time for the ignore button.


I think that is the best choice to make when dealing with people like this. I have him on ignore too.

:wink:

Paul O
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