Jonah and the Whale

[_SteelHead]

Paul O

I hate to ask. I mean I know this is celestial and all....... but why is that man holding a match inside a giant vagina?

[_just me]

I suppose that if you guys were there when Christ healed the young man who was blind from birth, you would say that was not according to natural law! That was a fake! Crucify him!

If we witnessed something why would we say anything at all? Of course, he coulda been one of those fake healers who gets people to pretend....

[_Shulem]

If we witnessed something why would we say anything at all? Of course, he coulda been one of those fake healers who gets people to pretend....

For Christ's sake, all those amazing things written in the Bible about Jesus performing miracles is a bunch of nonsense. Those things were written down after he died and a bunch of faith promoting stories were put together by his apostles as they sought to idolize their Jesus and make him a god. Did he cause the blind to see and leal lepers? I don't give a rat's ass whether he did or didn't. There is no proof. Just Bible stories and claims therein, much like the claims of Joe Smith and Facsimile No. 3 -- which are false.

Jesus means nothing to me. May he rest in peace. The poor fellow died a hard death. But that's not my problem or my fault.

Paul O

[_Themis]

sorry, you made the claim - the burden is on you.
but don't worry, no one expects you to actually support your "argument".


nonsense - you avoid the point. Provide evidence for these "motivation" with regards to the scriptures. You are illogical by relying on the notion that "some people are wrong" assertion. Provide evidence to your specific claim or realize that you are now one of those "some people".

You could try using your brain for once. If you are interested you can look it up. I don't know many who would claim the authors of any ancient texts including the Bible are infallible, and of course many were not there to witness the events and have to go on what they hear from others.

Excellent, then let us clarify this matter at once and let the "truth" be known! A simple answer form you will put me in my place.
1. Is there any truth(s) that you can convey which is NOT subjective or imaginary?

The moon currently orbits the earth.

[_Themis]

I suppose that if you guys were there when Christ healed the young man who was blind from birth, you would say that was not according to natural law! That was a fake! Crucify him!

Benny hinn is healing the blind and lame. I suppose we should not be skeptical of him.

[_gdemetz]

Benny Hinn has never healed anyone blind from birth! Christ's case, however, was a totally different situation which gathered a lot of attention. The young man and his family were brought in by the authorities for questioning, and it was well documented. However, since it was long ago, I'm confident that you guys will feel safer with that.

[_Drifting]

Benny Hinn has never healed anyone blind from birth! Christ's case, however, was a totally different situation which gathered a lot of attention. The young man and his family were brought in by the authorities for questioning, and it was well documented. However, since it was long ago, I'm confident that you guys will feel safer with that.

It was long ago.
Not only that, the account of it was written by someone who wasn't there and based it on the words of other people who likewise weren't there.

[_subgenius]

Not only that, the account of it was written by someone who wasn't there and based it on the words of other people who likewise weren't there.

you mean like the majority of the textbooks you have ever studied in school?
The implication you are clumsily trying to make here is not conclusive...just because something was written by someone who was not there - etc...does not make what was written "true" or "false".

Now, unless you have a reasonable argument that concludes with "false" then the only reasonable conclusion is "true"......unless you are naturally cynical.

[_Shulem]

Benny Hinn has never healed anyone blind from birth! Christ's case, however, was a totally different situation which gathered a lot of attention. The young man and his family were brought in by the authorities for questioning, and it was well documented. However, since it was long ago, I'm confident that you guys will feel safer with that.

It was long ago.
Not only that, the account of it was written by someone who wasn't there and based it on the words of other people who likewise weren't there.

She said he said she said he said and thus they said. Jesus healed who? Oh, so they wrote it down in a religious book and sought to idolize their founding prophet and create a whole new religion. What else is new?

The miracles of Jesus as recorded in the New Testament are simply unbelievable. They are fantastic stories designed to woo potential candidates into the cult. The whole thing is not credibible. It's over the top.

Paul O

[_Shulem]

How come we don't get to see fantastic miracles and events from the living prophets, seers, and revelators in our day? How about Boyd K. Packer and the Whale? God knows he deserves to be swallowed up for all that hatred that cankers his pitiful soul.

Why didn't Gordon B. Hinckley lead a team of saints accross dry land through the seas to find the Ten Lost Tribes? I saw no miracles from that pretended prophet.

Now we see Tommy S. Monson and he doesn't do anything either. Mormon prophets are nothing like Bible prophets. We want Bible prophets! Give us Bible prophets so we can toss them into a furnace and see if they burn, or into a den of lions and see what happens. Let's test the lord and see if he has power in our day. We will prove the lord herewith and see if he can work the same power in our day as what's recorded in the Bible times.

Show us a sign, Jesus. I won't believe until you show us a sign. And it better be a good one.

Waiting. Still waiting . . . .

Paul O