Cross, point, or angel on steeple?

[_Albion]

Not quite sure just how your post answers mine. However, as you say evangelicals "...are seldom seen doing actual good works." While not wanting to boast in good works, you really are kidding, aren't you? Do you go around with your eyes closed or is it just the myopic view you get within Mormonism.
There are thousands of real Christian missionaries around the world who give their entire lives for the cause of the gospel, working to build hospitals and schools, aiding in the production of food in third world countries. Even at home, it is mostly Christians who operate food pantries and soup kitchens with many churches opening their buildings for the aid to the needy. Of the three largest relief organizations in the US, two are Christian organizations...the Salvation Army and the Southern Baptist Convention, both evangelicals. How many soup kitchens run by Mormons in Salt Lake City? Heck, even secular WalMart gives more money annually to charity than does the Mormon Church...billion dollars malls don't count. I think you need to get out more.

[_Drifting]

Not quite sure just how your post answers mine. However, as you say evangelicals "...are seldom seen doing actual good works." While not wanting to boast in good works, you really are kidding, aren't you? Do you go around with your eyes closed or is it just the myopic view you get within Mormonism.
There are thousands of real Christian missionaries around the world who give their entire lives for the cause of the gospel, working to build hospitals and schools, aiding in the production of food in third world countries. Even at home, it is mostly Christians who operate food pantries and soup kitchens with many churches opening their buildings for the aid to the needy. Of the three largest relief organizations in the US, two are Christian organizations...the Salvation Army and the Southern Baptist Convention, both evangelicals. How many soup kitchens run by Mormons in Salt Lake City? Heck, even secular WalMart gives more money annually to charity than does the Mormon Church...billion dollars malls don't count. I think you need to get out more.

Albion, if they aren't wearing specially designed for PR "Helping Hands" t shirts then I'm afraid it doesn't count as good works...

[_Albion]

I think perhaps you are right. I could add, too, that unless is comes with a bundle of press releases it doesn't count either.

[Guest]

Yes, scripture, Nipper! The problem is that every time I quote scripture to you and Albion, you guys keep writing that it doesn't mean what it states!!!

No, When God say to Moses that "I AM," and Jesus says, "I AM," you tell us what Mormons think and not what the Bible is saying regarding such. I see one God and you see two plus some force... The God Head is GOD. Not a union of three gods. There are no other gods. According to the Bible there has only been one God and yet The Father, Christ the Son, and The Holy Ghost, have always existed, together, united. There have been no other gods. There will be no other gods. Believers will be in perfect union with God forever, but only because GOD exists. Without Christ nothing else besides God would exist. Even we would cease to exist.

[_gdemetz]

Nipper, you are not enduring sound doctrine. You are just repeating a centuries old brainwashed doctrine. Is it sound doctrine that one would pray to himself?!? "There are THREE that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Christ), and the holy Ghost, and these THREE are one (figurative!) These comprise the one "Godhead" which we worship. Christ stated that He would pray for His apostles that they may all be one JUST AS HE AND HIS FATHER WERE ONE! I hope that you don't believe that that literally means that the fifteen would all be literally one god, or whatever you would call it!!!

[_Drifting]

Nipper, you are not enduring sound doctrine. You are just repeating a centuries old brainwashed doctrine. Is it sound doctrine that one would pray to himself?!? "There are THREE that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Christ), and the holy Ghost, and these THREE are one (figurative!) These comprise the one "Godhead" which we worship. Christ stated that He would pray for His apostles that they may all be one JUST AS HE AND HIS FATHER WERE ONE! I hope that you don't believe that that literally means that the fifteen would all be literally one god, or whatever you would call it!!!

So who are the other Gods talked about in the Book of Abraham?
Why was Michael (turned into Adam) called a God?
Why does the Church teach new members that they themselves can become Gods?

[_gdemetz]

Drifting, have you studied Mormon Doctrine at all?! Why do Mormons teach these things? It is because they are scriptural and true!

[_Albion]

"Is it sound doctrine that one would pray to himself?" gdemetz asks. Just so you know Christian belief before you ridicule it: "According to Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity teaches that within the unity of one Deity there are three separate Persons who are coequal in power, nature and eternity." Agree or disagree all you want....but yet again, please get it right.

[_LittleNipper]

Nipper, you are not enduring sound doctrine. You are just repeating a centuries old brainwashed doctrine. Is it sound doctrine that one would pray to himself?!? "There are THREE that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Christ), and the holy Ghost, and these THREE are one (figurative!) These comprise the one "Godhead" which we worship. Christ stated that He would pray for His apostles that they may all be one JUST AS HE AND HIS FATHER WERE ONE! I hope that you don't believe that that literally means that the fifteen would all be literally one god, or whatever you would call it!!!

You added the word "figurative." When God wants to be figurative He uses words such as "like" and "as." The word "are" is direct and explicit. Humans are not God.

[_gdemetz]

Nipper, think about what you have written! It's figurative! Christ stated that He would pray for his apostles that they may be one just AS, AS, AS, (or in the same way) that He and His Father were one!!! Albion, I know the false man made doctrine of the Trinity that so many have been brainwashed and brain dead by for so many centuries! I have certainly read it more than once, and I stand by what I have stated here! If they are "by unity of person" as this ridiculous Creed states, then why would it be necessary to pray to one's self unity, and how could part of this unity of person know when part of Him would return, but the other part of the unity of person would not?!? Face it, it is just a bunch of man made c&^* that started in the Catholic church, "And the Catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in unity (more c&^*), Neither confounding the persons; nor dividing the essence" (much more C&*^*, it's really getting deep now! I can't go on, it smells too bad!). As stupid as all this is, I don't think Satan will inspire the anti's to comment on this! After all, he loves confusion, and you want real confusion, just read all of this stupid creed! Man! That just begged for a restitution of all things!!!!!!!