Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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LittleNipper wrote:
Drifting wrote:So, it is equally the case that people don't reap what is sown?

For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. The wages of sin is death. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name.


Any know if this is a 'yes' or a 'no'...?
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Drifting wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:
For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. The wages of sin is death. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name.

So, it is equally the case that people don't reap what is sown?
Any know if this is a 'yes' or a 'no'...?

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SomeOne, AnyOne, WhoEver!!!! If you believe that there was a flood and Noah was aboard his boat just tell me WHEN it happened.

I am so naïve and ill-informed in such matters that I assume that if a thing happened and it has been written about and people believe it to have happened, then there must be a date for such an event.

I'm not asking for a month and a day. I'm not even asking for a decade. But someone has got to have a century when this event occurred. Someone please nail it down to some century and then stick to that date so we can have a discussion about the event.

If there is evidence of a flood in the Euphrates valley, or around the Black Sea or even a global flood, then there must be a date we can estimate and then look through earth layers and ice layers and find such evidence. However, when those who write here about their belief in a flood but can't nail down a date, their discussion is no longer credible.

The volcanic explosion of Krakatoa in 1883 left evidence virtually around the earth. Climate changes occurred and levels of sulphur dioxide increased in the atmosphere. The skies were darkened for years after.

The flood must have left evidence. Where is it? And each of the flood events you exhibit must coincide within a hundred years of each other or it will be assumed you are talking about different events.

Give it your best shot.
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Do not be naïve simply consider the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxf40yO7I60
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Bcuzbcuz,

FLOOD AT NOAH’S TIME
See also Ark; Noah, Bible Patriarch; Rainbow.
During Noah’s time the earth was completely covered with water. This was the baptism of the earth and symbolized a cleansing (1 Pet. 3:20–21).

God will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh, Gen. 6:17 (Moses 7:34, 43, 50–52; Moses 8:17, 30).
The waters of the flood were upon the earth, Gen. 7:10
God set a bow in the cloud as a token of the covenant, Gen. 9:9–17
After the waters had receded, the land of America became a choice land, Ether 13:2
The wicked shall perish in the flood, Moses 7:38, Moses 8:24
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LittleNipper wrote:Do not be naïve simply consider the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxf40yO7I60


OK, Now give me a year when this happened.
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Drifting wrote:Bcuzbcuz,

FLOOD AT NOAH’S TIME
See also Ark; Noah, Bible Patriarch; Rainbow.
During Noah’s time the earth was completely covered with water. This was the baptism of the earth and symbolized a cleansing (1 Pet. 3:20–21).

God will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh, Gen. 6:17 (Moses 7:34, 43, 50–52; Moses 8:17, 30).
The waters of the flood were upon the earth, Gen. 7:10
God set a bow in the cloud as a token of the covenant, Gen. 9:9–17
After the waters had receded, the land of America became a choice land, Ether 13:2
The wicked shall perish in the flood, Moses 7:38, Moses 8:24
LDS.org


Just pin down a date for when this flood occurred. WHen?
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bcuzbcuz wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Do not be naïve simply consider the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxf40yO7I60


OK, Now give me a year when this happened.


Provide me the exact year scientists say the universe exploded into being, the exact year life began on earth. It seems to me that you likely allow them to have millions if not billions of years of guesses. It seems to me the video above presented a very scientific message and Bible believing Christian scientists are beginning to focus on a date. However, I feel that you are being rather unreasonable --- a thousand years vs. hundreds of millions?
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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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Good old science constantly proving everything and yet really affirming nothing

"Just 2% to 3% of the Earth's surface would have been dry land, compared with 28% today."
now for those that would like to discredit this evidence by the 2.5 billion year timeline, feel free to distract yourselves...but 2.5 billion years or 6,000 years really does not influence the notion that we can assume, with a great deal of probability, in the ability for the earth to actually be completely covered with water...whenever it may have been.
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subgenius wrote:Good old science constantly proving everything and yet really affirming nothing

"Just 2% to 3% of the Earth's surface would have been dry land, compared with 28% today."
now for those that would like to discredit this evidence by the 2.5 billion year timeline, feel free to distract yourselves...but 2.5 billion years or 6,000 years really does not influence the notion that we can assume, with a great deal of probability, in the ability for the earth to actually be completely covered with water...whenever it may have been.


So you don't believe it happened in 2,300 bc as the Church teaches?
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