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[Moksha]

That "Satanic heathen" label seems a bit much. Look, whatever you do, please refrain from casting Paul and Kerry into the fiery pits of hell.

[Shulem]

That "Satanic heathen" label seems a bit much. Look, whatever you do, please refrain from casting Paul and Kerry into the fiery pits of hell.

I agree. Personal attacks against board members have no place whatsoever in the Celestial Forum.

[Shulem]

Isaiah 55:8
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

Your thoughts, O LORD are definitely not my thoughts. How so? I don't contemplate killing others just because they disagree with me. I don't have a spirit of MURDER in my heart.

I am better than you, O LORD. When you have thoughts that drive you to murder and kill it only proves that you are evil.

You are a murderer.

[Shulem]

Isaiah 55:9
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

O LORD, when you commanded Abraham to murder his own son, to slit his throat on an unholy altar of sanctimonious vanity, how did that make you feel? How did you feel when commanding a father to butcher his own son and slay him like an animal?

I could never be like you, O LORD. You are the worst example of any father and you haven't a shred of love in you. I could never be like you.

[Shulem]

Because the Saviour lives, we all have access to hope, joy, peace, repentance and eternal life as we heed His call to “come, follow me” (Luke 18:22).

I don't have any regard for Jesus Christ. He means nothing to me. But I have access to hope! I hope for good things. I have joy too. And, I often experience peace. I have love, joy, and peace while at the same time I reject the so-called gospel of Jesus Christ and encourage others to do the same. Let go of religion and take charge of your own lives!

Amen.

[Philo Sofee]

Shulem and Philo, this thread is clearly titled LDS Thoughts and DOCTRINE.
Your Satanic heathen attacks, thoughts and comments are neither appropriate nor welcome in this thread.

Satanic...
We are challenging them, which is normal for the board. If all you want to do is spout the silliness, then have at it, I truly do have more important things to read than all this silly stuff I have read for decades. Thanks, and I wish you well.

[Shulem]

Your ideas, as we understand them, appear to contemplate the intermarriage of the Negro and white races, a concept which has heretofore been most repugnant to most normal-minded people from the ancient patriarchs until now.... there is a growing tendency, particularly among some educators, as it manifests itself in this area, toward the breaking down of race barriers in the matter of intermarriage between whites and blacks, but it does not have the sanction of the Church and is contrary to Church doctrine.

[Shulem]

Shulem and Philo, this thread is clearly titled LDS Thoughts and DOCTRINE.
Your Satanic heathen attacks, thoughts and comments are neither appropriate nor welcome in this thread.

Satanic...
We are challenging them, which is normal for the board. If all you want to do is spout the silliness, then have at it, I truly do have more important things to read than all this silly stuff I have read for decades. Thanks, and I wish you well.

I really don't think that Elizabeth was interested in back and forth discourse or the sharing of ideas and viewpoints. The board became a place for her to blog and use up space to plaster whatever she wants without being accountable and having to answer counter points or opposition in which this board is famous for. It seemed to be an in your face type of approach designed to disrupt and disturb posters here who would interject. But I'm not going to let it bother me too much. I'll just keep on posting as often as I like and continue to feel satisfied with my own performance in expressing my views. This is the only Elizabeth thread I intend to post in. I won't pay much mind to her others. I just don't care to. It's too boring. It's like a church meeting. Boooorrrrrrring.

[huckelberry]

Hi Shulem, If your child at say age 17 steals some of your whiskey and a car from down the street ends up drunkenly crashing and killing a couple of children does saying I am sorry solve the problem?

I think God is looking at a more difficult problem than just saying , you are forgiven.

Do you remember the scene in Schindler's list when the German officer does a ritual I am forgiven. Is that ok?

[Shulem]

Hi Shulem, If your child at say age 17 steals some of your whiskey and a car from down the street ends up drunkenly crashing and killing a couple of children does saying I am sorry solve the problem?

I think God is looking at a more difficult problem than just saying , you are forgiven.

Do you remember the scene in Schindler's list when the German officer does a ritual I am forgiven. Is that ok?

Forgiveness is all about healing. The person who is harmed should forgive because that heals them and they can let go of the anger and pain. That sometimes takes time. I get that. It might take a long time to forgive someone but forgiveness is always in the best interest in helping a person move on and purify themselves. Saying you're sorry is not enough. Actions and change are required. It can take time but when a person is truly sorry and when some time has passed then the healing process can truly begin. I want to think that I too can forgive anyone for anything. But that doesn't mean I want something bad to happen to me in order to test my resolve. I only want good things to happen to me! I only want to think positive and vibrate in a way that good things come my way. But if I have to forgive, then I will, whether that person is sorry or not. That will make one like a god which is what all of us can be.

I have not seen the movie you mentioned above. Just never had an interest seeing that particular show.