No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

[_subgenius]

You are right Drifting! Apparently Christ knew that he had sincerely repented, and his last recorded statements seem to indicate that.

but it is clear in Matthew's account that both thieves mocked Jesus while on the cross with no mention of repentance...nor any mention in Mark's account....correct?

[_gdemetz]

[non-Celestial comment redacted]! " For as one star differs from another in glory SO ALSO IS THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD"!!!

[_gdemetz]

No, actually the apparently repentant thief rebuked the other thief and asked Christ to remember him.

[_Mittens]

No, actually the apparently repentant thief rebuked the other thief and asked Christ to remember him.

Actually the Word today doesn't necessary mean that very day

Today
Luke 4
16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17 And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:


18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me,

Because He has anointed Me

To preach the gospel to the poor;

He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,

To proclaim liberty to the captives

And recovery of sight to the blind,

To set at liberty those who are oppressed;

19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.”


20 Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21 And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 So all bore witness to Him, and marveled at the gracious words which proceeded out of His mouth. And they said, “Is this not Joseph’s son?”

[_Drifting]

You are right Drifting! Apparently Christ knew that he had sincerely repented, and his last recorded statements seem to indicate that.

but it is clear in Matthew's account that both thieves mocked Jesus while on the cross with no mention of repentance...nor any mention in Mark's account....correct?

Bumping for gdemetz...

[_PrickKicker]

41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

Your right, not just three, But an Undefined amount, that makes things easier.

Its all relative anyway, and even if relative to the human perspective, it is a non starter as stars can be suns at distance and satellites orbiting the earth can appear brighter than they.

[_gdemetz]

Drifting, I answered that already. The scripture in Matthew I cited clearly states that it was i only one thief that mocked Christ, and the other thief admonished him for that. Also, there was another excuse made here. However, when Christ stated to the thief this day thou shalt be with me in paradise, He meant this day, today! After His spirit left His body, He went to the spirit paradise and organized the gospel to be preached to the dead! If you will notice, following His resurrection He told Mary Magdeline not to touch Him AS HE HAD NOT YET ASCENDED TO HIS FATHER!

[_gdemetz]

Actually day means day there. Christ told the thief on the cross that this day, today, "thou shalt be with me in paradise." The thief was with Christ when He went to organize the gospel to be preached to the spirits in prison. After Christ's resurrection, He told Mary Magdeline not to touch Him as He had not yet ascended to His Father in heaven, which clearly shows that this spirit paradise was not heaven!

[_gdemetz]

I will try reposting once again for the third time! Actually, it means one day. The scriptures state that Christ went to the spirit paradise to organize the gospel being preached to the dead. After He was resurrected, He told Mary Magdeline not to touch Him for He had not yet ascended to His Father in heaven. This clearly shows that this spirit paradise was not heaven!

[_gdemetz]

The moderators keep deleting my post every time I try to post here for some unknown reason so I will just also post a new topic to answer it!

[MODERATOR NOTE: No, your posts were not deleted. I just forgot to check the queue until now. Sorry about that.]

Anyhow, the day means one day. Christ went to the spirit paradise to organize the gospel being preached to the dead on the day He died and, of course, the thief went with him. After Christ's resurrection, He told Mary Magdeline not to touch Him since He had not yet ascended to His Father in heaven, which clearly shows that this spirit paradise was (is) not heaven!