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Re: Free Will

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Mktavish wrote:
Oh by the way ... what is 1 question bigger than if god exists?


Any question that's involved with improving the human condition. Some questions are not important while others just have never had enough information to answer for thousands of years like does God exist. I would suggest it is not all that relevant since God either does not exist or is not interested in talking to anyone.
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Mktavish wrote:
I think you totally miss the point of asking if god exists. I guess one could ask why have people been asking it for so long?



I understand the point of asking if God exists, as well as why peple have been asking it for so long. First though most people have not been asking, since they may already make claims about their God or beliefs. Humans have a desire to understand the world around them. This is why humans seek answers to how we got here, or what is the cause of thunder, lightning, and fire from the mountain. Humans also like to make up answers even if they have no evidence to go on.

And I say to ask the question and contemplate is better than to decide the awnser ... for upon reaching that point , the box expands no longer.


Only if the answer has been decided on no real evidence. If it is answered based on the evidence, it usually gives us more questions to contemplate.

So is your question "What would improve the human condition" ?
And I suppose the top of the list would be to stop wondering if god exists?


I have no problem with asking questions, but we shouldn't spend to much time on ones that have no answers, when we could be spending it on things that will make a real difference.

I guess eventually your going to say that god is responsible for a lot of wars and violence ... But its the knowing that god exists not the wondering if god exists that's the source here.


Why would I say that? God doesn't start any wars. People do. Religion is one of those reasons we may start or fight wars.
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Re: Free Will

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Mktavish wrote:
And here lies the fallacy in my oppinion. To assume there could be any evidence or way for god to reveal themself to everyone equally so that the concept is the same in everyones perception ... and have absolutely no differing oppinions on the subject. It would ultimately change our existence as we know it , No more individuallity. Wich I feel would be way worse than living with the existence of uncertainty.

It would be better for humanity viewed as 1 organism to have common knowledge and perception "The Borg from star trek come to mind" But haveing tasted individuallity , that would seem like hell to the individual imho.

If there is some concept I am missing ... please inform me ... For I see not even 1 reason to outweigh why god would not make themself known to everyone equally.


What fallacy? No one is suggesting the evidence would be equal for everyone, and I can't think of how we would lose our individuality because everyone knows God exists.
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Mktavish wrote:
What does god revealing themself to everyone equally mean?


I don't know, you brought it up.

How would this be accomplished and maintain individuallity? And god still maintain god status?


How would any of this affect the individuality of anyone?
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Mktavish wrote:
For everyone to have equall comprehension of god would put a serious dent in individuality


I will repeat my question

How would any of this affect the individuality of anyone? Edit:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/individuality

And this is assumeing that wondering if god exists is the biggest question faceing man. But like I said , If you think there is a bigger question then name it. But if it can be expanded to the god question then ... ofcourse its not bigger.


I already provided a category of questions that would be bigger.

Any question that's involved with improving the human condition.
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