UFO: The Greatest Story Ever Denied.

[_Buffalo]

Ray: what do the aliens look like? Are they the same species as us?

[_Ray A]

Ray: what do the aliens look like? Are they the same species as us?

I've never seen one, Buffalo, but have read many reports of encounters. They apparently range in size from three to four feet, to significantly taller than us (of the species that have been encountered). As Edgar Mitchell observed, they generally tend to be "little people", however there is also a species who look exactly like us; you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you saw one of them in a crowd.

[_Buffalo]

I've never seen one, Buffalo, but have read many reports of encounters. They apparently range in size from three to four feet, to significantly taller than us (of the species that have been encountered). As Edgar Mitchell observed, they generally tend to be "little people", however there is also a species who look exactly like us; you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you saw one of them in a crowd.

Hmm, interesting.

Is there a particular reason why aliens are obsessed with the human anus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7sBTHtcLU

[_Ray A]

Is there a particular reason why aliens are obsessed with the human anus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7sBTHtcLU

That was funny. (The UFO/Alien "culture" caught on even before Spielberg. There is some truth in all humour and fiction, though I don't think aliens have a fetish for anuses, and would probably be much more cultured and intelligent than we are. : )

[_Buffalo]

That was funny. (The UFO/Alien "culture" caught on even before Spielberg. There is some truth in all humour and fiction, though I don't think aliens have a fetish for anuses, and would probably be much more cultured and intelligent than we are. : )

Hmm, I have it on good authority that while aliens are polite, perhaps even highly intelligent, they're dreadfully dull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR_w-hFjqto

[_Quasimodo]

Is there a particular reason why aliens are obsessed with the human anus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7sBTHtcLU

Maybe they don't have one are are puzzled why we do?

"What is this smelly hole in the back? These earthlings..."

[_Ray A]

Hmm, I have it on good authority that while aliens are polite, perhaps even highly intelligent, they're dreadfully dull.

Maybe you could ask Travis Walton.

[_ShadowFax]

The pilgrims on the moon are probably Mormons. My guess is the rest of them are agnostics. :)

Those are Quakers, not pilgrims.

sorry. I couldn't resist.



I have an open mind. I just don't see what it has to do with Mormonism.

[_Ray A]

I have an open mind. I just don't see what it has to do with Mormonism.

Quite a lot. Perhaps in ways none of of us has yet figured out. Even the notion of Kolob, the star nearest to where God lives, is not that far-fetched in terms of cosmology. We mock according to our understanding, which is by no means "cosmological truth". I can fully appreciate why Joseph said that the "Saints" were not ready to receive what he knew. Brigham didn't just facetiously suggest that Adam "was brought from another planet". I don't expect, nor even hope, that many will agree with me (including Mormons). Those trying to "define" Mormonism according to their contemporary understanding don't have the vaguest idea.

We could be overtaken and captured by hostile aliens at any moment, but being the deluded crank that I am, I believe we have been spared this by the Deity. But for how much longer, I do not know. The "beasts" of Revelation which John saw may yet arise to torment men.

Our only recourse is to trust in God, the overseer of all this. Should we fail, then we are at the mercy of any invading alien forces, who have so far been restrained from interfering with us.

The Deluded One signing off.

And Peace to all.

Mock away!

[Guest]

A few weeks ago I caught a repeat episode on the History Channel about WW2's Nazi space engineering. It fascinated me. Did you catch it?

http://www.iwatchdocumentaries.com/documenatries/discovery-channel-nazi-ufo-conspiracy-2010/

It claims that German scientists translated ancient Sanskrit texts to formulate ideas for flying machines and that these machines are what people may be currently seeing in the skies as ufo's.

I didn't bother recording it and went online to see if I could find it and watch it again.

While googling for a download of the documentary I came across an interesting video which describes radioactive blasting that affected the Indus Valley thousands of years BCE. The cause can only be theorized and speculated but the link was interesting in that it coordinated ancient texts from that time period. Texts were written in the Sanskrit vedas but prior to recording them were passed down verbally so it's unclear to find an exact date pinning the information even though the written texts can be dated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PfhV_Hns4

Perhaps these are the GODS Smith was in contact with? He does adhere to the old testament which gets much of its message from Sumerian stories.
If so, I'll pass as he was led down the garden path which would explain the deceptive patterns consistant throughout Mormonism prophet apostle leadership past and present. (which is fine if a member doesn't demand its prophet apostles of God to be ethical, truthful and upright - but if a member does demand truthfulness and integrity of it's God Prophet then this becomes an obvious issue for those who have been more than just "cultural" Mormons and quite often a complete dealbreaker for those of a more serious spiritually demanding bent -- but I digress.)

Perhaps these 'originators' described in the history channel Nazi information, and in the Rig Veda texts, were the GODS of the old testament and the Sumerian and Egyptian recordings as well? (I'm not saying they are by the way, I'm only offering an open mind and debate.)
However, let's say these Gods of the o.t. are the same cause of the atomic radiation wipeout in the indus valley dating thousands of years BCE, and the same Gods of Sumeria and therefor the Bible, it would explain the extremely jealous, warring, angry violent God of the old testament as that appears to be a common thread that runs throughout the recorded histories.

Do you believe/suspect that this is the Elohim plural Gods as mentioned in the old testament, which was information taken and "tweaked" from sumerian tales?

elohim definitions: The notion of divinity underwent radical changes throughout the period of early Israelite identity. The ambiguity of the term Elohim is the result of such changes, cast in terms of "vertical translatability" i.e. the re-interpretation of the gods of the earliest recalled period as the national god of the monolatrism as it emerged in the 7th to 6th century BC in the Kingdom of Judah and during the Babylonian captivity, and further in terms of monotheism by the emergence of Rabbinical Judaism in the 2nd century AD.In Hebrew the form of the word Elohim, with the ending -im, which normally indicates a masculine plural, however with Elohim the construction is usually grammatically singular, (i.e. it governs a singular verb or adjective) when referring to the Hebrew God, but grammatically plural (i.e. taking a plural verb or adjective) when used of pagan divinities (Psalms 96:5; 97:7).

Blueletter Bible is a fairly good source for Hebrew definitions.[url]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/f ... ria=elohim[/url]

RayA: Our only recourse is to trust in God, the overseer of all this. Should we fail, then we are at the mercy of any invading alien forces, who have so far been restrained from interfering with us.

If you have followed Smith into trusting this GOD you say you trust then I wish you luck RayA and I sincerely and genuinely mean that. If I am to surmise anything by the small number of videos and research I've done is that I wouldn't trust THAT God within an inch of my life - whether that god is myth or reality doesn't matter; I oppose this. I will not fear that God, but neither would I trust "it".

What if these are the Gods you and Smith and others who worship the old testament and other religious texts?
I'm only offering that up as an idea since you asked for open minded debates.


Again, if these are the GODS that Smith spoke of, and adheres to from the o.t. via sumeria and/or the indus valley, then these Gods have technology but are otherwise not evolved according to my definition. Similar to humanity who can send a rocket to the moon but are a sad example of mans inhumanity toward man on the whole, and generally with few exceptions only when the giver has something to gain by the giving.

I haven't had the chance to read your entire thread, but maybe tomorrow. It's sleep time for now.